New Family Car - Spec Me

I dunno, with a lot of these modern motors I prefer the look of the estate to the saloon (3 & 5 series included). But maybe I'm too old now or something (hope not at 37). Older motors, yes, the saloon looks better. But not so much nowadays. Like you say though, it's the practical aspect of the estate that is the biggest pull though.

Yeah, take her along. Much better if you can look at them side by side (estate and saloon). And also if you can see the different sizes (so 3 series and 5 series for example).

What we found was that the pram had to go into the boot width way in the 3 series, but could go length ways in the 5 series. The difference here is that width way it takes up most of the boot, and length way it only takes up half the boot. So if you are right on the ball and already have your pram (or could borrow one similar to what your getting), you should really take it with you when car shopping, because how easy it fits in the boot, and how much room it takes once in, are the biggest factors at this stage (or it was for us). Obviously prams are all different sizes, and fold down in different ways, so taking a random one might not be as useful as taking one the same or very similar to the one you might end up with.

It may also be worth having a look at the likes of the Ford S-Max or VW Touran too. They are obviously smaller than my Alhambra (or Ford Galaxy), but being 7 seats means they will have bigger boots (with the seats down), but are more "car-like" in appearance and drive. Of course, there is no getting away from looking more like estates, but they might be big enough, certainly with only 1 child.

We have the pram and il be making sure we take it with us...i think il have to car swap with her for the first few months...as my Civic has a massive boot and is very practical, she just doesnt like the rear view visibility.
Mind she will soon find out that certain things we need to sacrifice for other areas.
 
We have the pram and il be making sure we take it with us...i think il have to car swap with her for the first few months...as my Civic has a massive boot and is very practical, she just doesnt like the rear view visibility.
Mind she will soon find out that certain things we need to sacrifice for other areas.

Just don't remind her that it's her sleep and her ass that'll be the first to go...:D
 
We went for a C-Max over the Quashqai, mainly because at 6'2" I struggled to get into the drivers seat. The C-Max isn't a big car, but then my wife really didn't want anything too big. It's basically a tall Focus, with a few neat additions to give a little more space/storage. And as it's based on the Focus it actually drives quite nicely with a decent engine.

I found the popular engines in these to be useless, 1.6 n/a petrol, or 1.6 turbo diesel. They are totally gutless. So searched and found one with a 1.6 ecoboost engine (detuned to 150bhp, but can map to 190bhp safely). We paid a little over £7k from a main dealer for this on a 11 plate with 60k miles on it.

Saying that I made do with a 3 door punto for my first child, as long as you choose pram/pushchair and car seats wisely you don't need a massive car 95% of the time. However it is definitely useful and makes life much easier.

I've also had a 06 VW Jetta TDI, the boot in that was pretty big. So maybe something like a mk2 octavia could be a good choice with a petrol engine (vrs maybe), these can be had for £3k now, so your original budget should find a good one.
 
We went for a C-Max over the Quashqai, mainly because at 6'2" I struggled to get into the drivers seat. The C-Max isn't a big car, but then my wife really didn't want anything too big. It's basically a tall Focus, with a few neat additions to give a little more space/storage. And as it's based on the Focus it actually drives quite nicely with a decent engine.

I found the popular engines in these to be useless, 1.6 n/a petrol, or 1.6 turbo diesel. They are totally gutless. So searched and found one with a 1.6 ecoboost engine (detuned to 150bhp, but can map to 190bhp safely). We paid a little over £7k from a main dealer for this on a 11 plate with 60k miles on it.

Saying that I made do with a 3 door punto for my first child, as long as you choose pram/pushchair and car seats wisely you don't need a massive car 95% of the time. However it is definitely useful and makes life much easier.

I've also had a 06 VW Jetta TDI, the boot in that was pretty big. So maybe something like a mk2 octavia could be a good choice with a petrol engine (vrs maybe), these can be had for £3k now, so your original budget should find a good one.

Not a bad shout....Ford are also cheap to maintain

We did see the Golf+ and the Altea also...quite like the latter tbh. Its basically an larger Leon, much like the Focus/C-Max
 
Regarding 'bigger' cars like the Octavia (it really isn't), just remind her that in the event of a crash the more metal you have around your little one, the better. ;) A Euro NCAP 5* rating on a supermini is not the same as a 5* rating on a large saloon... We have kids, and although you can manage with a smaller car (especially with just one of them!), the more room the better really. You'll be glad in the long run and it opens up a lot more choice.

Forget SUVs/crossovers unless you really need the easier access. A decent estate or large hatch will not only be nicer to drive, but will offer at least as much space if not more. For example our Superb hatch (which is a large car!) has a 630 litre boot, an Octavia hatch has 590 litres, whereas a Nissan CashCow has just 430 litres)... I'd also definitely be looking for petrols for your usage and mileage. We got a 2.0 TSI because even though it seems every other daily/family car in the country is a diesel, we only do 12k and the petrol is simpler, quieter and much more fun. :D
 
Hi All

Just revisiting this post...trying to increase the budget to 7-8k.
Had thought about a Golf TSI 1.4 with the boot being 380L.
I do still like the idea of the Quashqai but for both this and the Golf im worried about the reliability issues and other issues ive heard of.

The wife doesnt like the idea of an Estate either.
Mk3 Focus the boot space is too small, coming from the Corsa at 260 to something only 50L it really isnt very beneficial.

List so far is Ceed, Golf, Leon, Qashqai, C-max...we want low annual tax and a decent returning mpg (over 40mpg) and a decent boot space (usuable for a pram and 2 bags)...im swaying towards a Qashqai/C-max as we will be staycationing for the next 3-5years and want to have the space available for everything.

We will look to purchase in the next few months...hoping to get around £750 for the Corsa as well (fingers crossed)
 
Audi A3 5 door 1.4l tfsi 122ps/140ps. Would get over 40mpg easy, really big boot, safe as hell, looks better than all those others Imo and has enough poke.
 
Mk3 Focus the boot space is too small, coming from the Corsa at 260 to something only 50L it really isnt very beneficial.

Still think you are overthinking this a bit with regards to the focus (no pun intended) on Litres.

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Focus MK3 on left at 315l vs Corsa (2006-2015) 285l.

It may only be 30 litres, but the Focus' boot is a lot more useful.

I moved from a Audi A3 sportback (370 litres) to the Focus, and the difference isn't really noticeable, as the footprint (i.e. floor surface area) is pretty much the same.

Look at boot space and actual usability (i.e. Saloons often have huge boot litreage, but have to fit through a tiny opening)
 
Still think you are overthinking this a bit with regards to the focus (no pun intended) on Litres.

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Focus MK3 on left at 315l vs Corsa (2006-2015) 285l.

It may only be 30 litres, but the Focus' boot is a lot more useful.

I moved from a Audi A3 sportback (370 litres) to the Focus, and the difference isn't really noticeable, as the footprint (i.e. floor surface area) is pretty much the same.

Look at boot space and actual usability (i.e. Saloons often have huge boot litreage, but have to fit through a tiny opening)

Hmm picture on the left is with the seats down? So not really showing me a like for like mate? No disrespect intended.

Corsa on the right isnt the same Corsa as hers either...maybe hers is the last of the model before.
 
I just helped my brother buy a new car. His requirements were similar to yours but his will be used as a second car.

In the end I found him a 2009 1.6 Focus with 40k miles for £3950 via a private sale. Very good value for money.

For around £5.5k you are looking at a 2011 example.
 
Surely you can use a bit of common sense and use that picture to imagine the Focus boot size with the seats up (hint, the folded seats will line up with the one that isn't!)
 
I just helped my brother buy a new car. His requirements were similar to yours but his will be used as a second car.

In the end I found him a 2009 1.6 Focus with 40k miles for £3950 via a private sale. Very good value for money.

For around £5.5k you are looking at a 2011 example.

We had thought about the older focus...but not so sure at the moment
 
Hmm picture on the left is with the seats down? So not really showing me a like for like mate? No disrespect intended.

Corsa on the right isnt the same Corsa as hers either...maybe hers is the last of the model before.

I'll try again then:

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Focus MK3 on left - 316 Litres
Corsa (2003-2006) Mid - 260 Litres
Golf (2009-2012) Right - 350 Litres


That shapes Corsa's boot isn't particularly tall, and narrows significantly at the sides.

How much more useable is the Golf's extra 34 litres (over the Focus) in the real world - probably not much.




* Sorry if it's not quite perfect - The Golf and Corsa aren't at quite the same angle as the Focus :D
 
I'll try again then:

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Focus MK3 on left - 316 Litres
Corsa (2003-2006) Mid - 260 Litres
Golf (2009-2012) Right - 350 Litres


That shapes Corsa's boot isn't particularly tall, and narrows significantly at the sides.

How much more useable is the Golf's extra 34 litres (over the Focus) in the real world - probably not much.




* Sorry if it's not quite perfect - The Golf and Corsa aren't at quite the same angle as the Focus :D

I see your point...thank you, appreciate the effort taken.
I think its a case of take the pram down and see what works :-)
Ive heard bad things about the Golf 1.4 TSI which is the engine id probably go for, for both the Audi/Golf or Leon...but then first hand experience is always valuable.
 
Ive heard bad things about the Golf 1.4 TSI which is the engine id probably go for, for both the Audi/Golf or Leon...but then first hand experience is always valuable.

The problematic 1.4 TSI was the one with both a Supercharger and Turbocharger (akak Twincharged), which was available in several different power outputs, but mainly 140bhp in Golf, 160bhp in Golf, and 180bhp in Polo GTI iirc)

The 123bhp version used by Audi and Seat, only uses a Turbocharger, and as such is far more reliable than the more complicated twincharged version
 
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