How much is too much (Alcohol)

Hai.

As a few others have said, see if you can knock it on the head for a month/mebbe two. See if you get cranky/restless on your normal "drinking days" - if you do, then you do have some alcohol dependency. In the great scheme of things, 14 units two days per week isn't a huge amount, but ultimately if you feel it's too much, then quite simply, it IS too much. You will find your tolerance will increase (as you have said), and you'll need to drink more to achieve the same intoxication feelings if that's a primary reason to drink. That leads to a slippery slope :/

I wish you all the best in heading towards the outcome you would like to achieve o/
 
Yet if we flipped it round a bit and said twice a week you liked to pop a few xanax or diazepam because it was nice and you like to relax most people would straight away probably say they had an issue.

Different drug same outcome very different views.

That's a complete different thing entirely tho. I know alcohol being perfectly legal to go and buy over the counter isn't exactly a reasonable counter argument but cause it is legal it's different.

And TBH I know I am an extremely lenient person when it's comes to drugs but I'd persaonly say if you want to pop xanax a few nights a week or smoke a joint or drop then it's your choice that, really, you shouldn't judge people for (I'm not saying you are just in general people have no right to judge) And exactly the same as alcohol as long as you have it under control and could stop if needed which I believe both apply to OP I persaonly don't see an issue.
 
approx 28 units per week, recommended amount is 14 units.

It's probably a bit high, really, for routine drinking.

Do we know what evidence based research the 14 units of alcohol per week is based on? To my knowledge the government (a few 100 individuals in parliament) just made that up off the top of their heads.
 
Ha! As a South African, all I can say is you're level 1.

Make the same thread again when you're level 5.

This man has the right approach to life. Maybe I can't keep up with you but it wouldn't be a boring night giving it a go :)
 
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I'd struggle to recall how many times alcohol has passed my lips this year, besides a random glass of wine I had at the in-laws mid summer, I can now feel a mild hangover feeling coming on after a few sips. Somewhere in the mid noughties, I had to stop drinking because of medication I was on for a while, but afterwards I inexplicably lost the habit. In the mid nineties, it worried me how quickly I would finish pints, typically in less than six swigs and ten minutes.

I'm so sorry for your loss :(
 
Do we know what evidence based research the 14 units of alcohol per week is based on? To my knowledge the government (a few 100 individuals in parliament) just made that up off the top of their heads.

I suspect it has some connection to the hundreds of medical studies covering millions of people over decades.

It's not a radical idea with little or no evidence pushed through by political manipulation. It's not even slightly disputed. There's some scope for disagreement about where to draw the line. Maybe 18 units would be better. Maybe 10 units would be better. Maybe 5 units would be better. It all depends on what degree of risk you consider acceptable as advice to everyone. Any alcohol use carries some degree of risk, obviously, since alcohol is toxic to humans (and most if not all other lifeforms).
 
I suspect it has some connection to the hundreds of medical studies covering millions of people over decades.

It's not a radical idea with little or no evidence pushed through by political manipulation. It's not even slightly disputed. There's some scope for disagreement about where to draw the line. Maybe 18 units would be better. Maybe 10 units would be better. Maybe 5 units would be better. It all depends on what degree of risk you consider acceptable as advice to everyone. Any alcohol use carries some degree of risk, obviously, since alcohol is toxic to humans (and most if not all other lifeforms).

If the 14 units, a drop from 21 I believe, is actually based on decades of research, it should be easy to point to the overwhelming scientific opinion?


Similarly it shouldn't be possible that the same government (and previous governments) ignored it's own advisory scientific council set up to investigate evidence regarding drugs laws in the U.K.

https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/uk-government-ignores-the-advice-of-its-own-drug-experts-again/
 
What whiskey and rum do you drink?

The fact that you mix it says it's not a good whiskey so perhaps try one that is of a higher quality and saviour it without mixing. It'll last longer and you'll reduce the amount you drink.

It's only a problem when it affects your daily life, chances are you will be the last one to see it though.

Personally, I can't open a bottle of red and not finish it. Would struggle to get through a bottle of spirits in a week though. A month is a push.
 
It can be drunk quicker... So if you can take 3 gulps of W+S instead of 2 gulps of wine you basically take in the same ammount of alcohol, but now we have bubbles creating pressure pressure in the stomach, which helps to force alcohol into the bloodstream.

I can't tell if there is some science here or if this is total ********. :p
 
I don't care for my alcohol intake, I been to alcoholic clinic advisers and am not an alcoholic, close but not quite! :D

If you want booze in the morning you are an alcoholic basically.

I have far too much to do in the day to be drinking, just nope. ;)
 
It is a bit weird how people find being able to drink a lot as being something to be proud of.

It is wise to start the thread and keep an eye on how much you drink because it can destroy lives (as can any addiction, obviously), I've seen it first hand and it's not pretty :(
 
It is a bit weird how people find being able to drink a lot as being something to be proud of.

It is wise to start the thread and keep an eye on how much you drink because it can destroy lives (as can any addiction, obviously), I've seen it first hand and it's not pretty :(

Like anything all in moderation, I drink every night but not to the point of being incapacitated.

I just have a tipple to nod off to sleep. a lot of people do and carry on a normal day without drinking.

I drink coffee all day then depending on if a busy or we going out for lunch, I will never drink before 2pm only a few times at funerals and on benders. (Both getting few and far between thank god!) :D

But no in general I have too much to do in the day to drink, I only think about a drink when I have nothing else to do that day. ;)
 
Like anything all in moderation, I drink every night but not to the point of being incapacitated.

I just have a tipple to nod off to sleep. a lot of people do and carry on a normal day without drinking.

I drink coffee all day then depending on if a busy or we going out for lunch, I will never drink before 2pm only a few times at funerals and on benders. (Both getting few and far between thank god!) :D

But no in general I have too much to do in the day to drink, I only think about a drink when I have nothing else to do that day. ;)

I'm the same, its mainly through boredom if I'm not busy or stress relief if I am.

Never crave a drink when I wake up and going without doesn't bother me, but quite happy to sit down the pub and have 4-6 pints most nights. I know its not healthy but its not quite alcoholism.

e: should also say that as a rule I never daytime drink, even if out for a meal etc. Always after 7pm for me.
 
If the 14 units, a drop from 21 I believe, is actually based on decades of research, it should be easy to point to the overwhelming scientific opinion?


Similarly it shouldn't be possible that the same government (and previous governments) ignored it's own advisory scientific council set up to investigate evidence regarding drugs laws in the U.K.

https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/uk-government-ignores-the-advice-of-its-own-drug-experts-again/

I'd like some clarification regarding exactly what your position is before I give a bunch of references.

Are you saying that alcohol use doesn't have any risks or are you disputing the advice of no more than 140ml of alcohol per week? Which, by the way, was from doctors and not the government. In this case, the government didn't ignore the advice of experts.

The medical evidence indicates that any use of alcohol increases the risk of various medical problems, some fatal. If you're disagreeing with what degree of risk the government should advise people against or whether the government should be giving any advice on that matter, that's about politics, not medical evidence.
 
Is it better to drink 2 or 3 pints a night, every night of the week or that same quantity in a single day then nothing in the week?

I never usually drink mid week but then every few weeks will go on a blow out session where consumption goes through the roof
 
K this has gone a bit mental now

But basically:

* Sitting in my Turtle Pj's drinking rum is setting a bad example to my kids ( my kids are always in bed when i have a drink with the wife)
* I literally should have been dead 10 years ago
* I'm going to die
* I should be dead
* My liver has all but given up
* I'm really unhealthy (even tho i think i look ok)

If that is the case, then how the absolute heck my dad is still alive is absolutely beyond me.

You know whats funny but really sad, my mum hardly ever drunk or smoked, in fact she NEVER drunk and never smoked.... But died of multiple cancers! So personally i think millions of Independent stats can be produced, but ultimately it comes down to what your body can handle or not. I'd like to avoid dying granted, but i also dont want to look back and think, "**** i was bored"....

I exercise hard and drink a decent amount of water. But twice a week i smash my liver in. I've been doing it since i was about 20. So i'm pretty screwed.
 
Cheers all..... mwahahaha

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