CBD reclassified as medicine in UK from November 1st 2016

Actually, after some research you won't be able to get it on prescription as no one does it apart from sativex which is only prescribed for very certain conditions, anxiety and depression not being them! Also sativex contains thc which gets you high, i just want cbd.

The companies that currently sell it will have to spend a huge amount of money for a licence and to have their product tested for sale. Most will not be able to afford this, only the big pharmaceutical companies can. So i shafts the small businesses and hands the profits into the large dominant companies.

What a joke
 
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Actually, after some research you won't be able to get it on prescription as no one does it apart from sativex which is only prescribed for very certain conditions, anxiety and depression not being them!

Not true, you can get a prescription for MediPen if you have depression, anxiety, arthritis, fibromyalgia, etc. MediPen is proper CBD.

The companies that currently sell it will have to spend a huge amount of money for a licence and to have their product tested for sale. Most will not be able to afford this, only the big pharmaceutical companies can. So i shafts the small businesses and hands the profits into the large dominant companies.

And it's all thanks to the CBD users who demanded that it should be accepted as a medicine.
 
Sorry, are you saying there are tax paying small businesses whos only item they sold was this oil?
How many such businesses do you know of?
How vital do you believe them to be for the economy?

There are tax paying businesses that sell CBD, blocking the sale of CBD will obviously harm those businesses and reduce tax revenue, potentially leading to lay offs if revenue drops off enough.


You sound like you were a reseller and you are now ****ed off that you'll be regulated...

Yeah in my spare time when I'm not doing my IT day job and looking after my horse, I'm reselling CBD on the side. :rolleyes:

Codeine may have been a bad example. Although it will still be behind the counter requiring the pharmacist to make a judgement.

How about we make oxycodone available without prescription? I can guarantee pharmacies will have a boom in sales and they can create more jobs?

I support the legalisation of all drugs, yes.

...and a properly regulated product, at long last.

Sounds fine to me.

Regulation is not a good thing.

Not true, you can get a prescription for MediPen if you have depression, anxiety, arthritis, fibromyalgia, etc. MediPen is proper CBD.

Theory and reality are two different things. I couldn't get a prescription for a strong painkiller after I'd been in a car crash because of the regulation in the UK.

If it's classed as medicine it'll probably end up being subsidised by the NHS, so they should get it even cheaper. Win-win!

Which would then be a huge cost to the NHS...
 
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There are already so many experts campaigning for it with huge support that I see no need to do that thanks.

CBD is being regulated as per current rules on medicine.

I don't see you disputing CBD's status as medicine.

So I don't see the point of your posts, other than suggesting CBD should be treated differently.

If you have a problem with regulation on medicine, then change open another thread for that.
 
My posts are perfectly pertinent, discussing the effects of this on the economy and the availability of the medicine post regulation is absolutely relevant. I'm not much bothered if you see the point of my posts or not, it's an open forum.
 
Actually, after some research you won't be able to get it on prescription as no one does it apart from sativex which is only prescribed for very certain conditions, anxiety and depression not being them! Also sativex contains thc which gets you high, i just want cbd.

The companies that currently sell it will have to spend a huge amount of money for a licence and to have their product tested for sale. Most will not be able to afford this, only the big pharmaceutical companies can. So i shafts the small businesses and hands the profits into the large dominant companies.

What a joke

No, the joke is people have been selling untested chemicals for years.... subject to no medical authority or even food licencing.
That's a crazy joke. You have physically no idea of what is actually in the bottle, or if anyone bothered to check.
Now you will have.
Won't take long until rivals appear.
 
The idea that we should declassify or deregulate medicines in order to raise more tax is just a stupid argument anyway. The regulations exist for more important reasons.
 
Give me a revenue idea of what tax this raises for the economy.

No idea, but anything is better than nothing.

The idea that we should declassify or deregulate medicines in order to raise more tax is just a stupid argument anyway. The regulations exist for more important reasons.

I don't argue that on economic grounds, I argue against drug regulation on humanitarian reasons.
 
What the hell!! I've been taking cbd for years and while using it get almost no anxiety attacks or any impulsive behaviour.

What the hell!!!! So how am i going to get my medicine? I don't particularly want to smoke cannabis as i don't want the psychoactive effects.

Where do you buy your CBD from? I want to buy some for joint pain, but I don't know who I can trust online.

If you could send me a message in trust (I tried to send you one but you've not configured it...) I'd really appreciate it.
 
No idea, but anything is better than nothing.

I don't argue that on economic grounds, I argue against drug regulation on humanitarian reasons.

No, you didn't.
You argued it would hurt the economy.
You stated it would result in the closure of businesses.
You argued that it would result in the loss of jobs.


Now when queried, you said, 'No idea.'
Did you go to the Brexit school of economics?
Your earlier posts were utter gubbins, and full of rot.
Now you just want freely available legal drugs.
I can understand that stance, I don't quite agree with it, but I can understand it.
It has nothing to do with loss of tax revenue, employment, keeping businesses afloat. If big pharma actually run with this, then jobs, and the economy will do better than they are currently. Assuming the medical evidence is in place that it does good, and is better than alternatives.
 
Not true, you can get a prescription for MediPen if you have depression, anxiety, arthritis, fibromyalgia, etc. MediPen is proper CBD.

Thanks man i'll chat to my doctor about that. I prefer to vape mine though.

My posts are perfectly pertinent, discussing the effects of this on the economy and the availability of the medicine post regulation is absolutely relevant. I'm not much bothered if you see the point of my posts or not, it's an open forum.

Agreed. Some people are so butthurt when it goes against their ideology. Probably voted conservative ;)

Give me a revenue idea of what tax this raises for the economy.

Well, the 100% organic cbd i buy is subject to 20% vat so thats a start.
 
Where do you buy your CBD from? I want to buy some for joint pain, but I don't know who I can trust online.

If you could send me a message in trust (I tried to send you one but you've not configured it...) I'd really appreciate it.

I buy mine on amazon. CBD brothers are really good and do a type you can drop under the tongue or add to a smoothy. 100% organic, hundreds of good reviews from customers dealing with many different conditions.

I buy from another retailer that specifically makes it for vaporising in my atomiser. Add a few drops to my flavoured juice and away i go.
Thats from botanicals and herbs.
 
No, you didn't.
You argued it would hurt the economy.
You stated it would result in the closure of businesses.
You argued that it would result in the loss of jobs.


Now when queried, you said, 'No idea.'
Did you go to the Brexit school of economics?
Your earlier posts were utter gubbins, and full of rot.
Now you just want freely available legal drugs.
I can understand that stance, I don't quite agree with it, but I can understand it.
It has nothing to do with loss of tax revenue, employment, keeping businesses afloat. If big pharma actually run with this, then jobs, and the economy will do better than they are currently. Assuming the medical evidence is in place that it does good, and is better than alternatives.

That is a load of rubbish. We are not talking about two mutually exclusive positions. Drug legality and medical regulations are both separate issues. The way we regulate medicines does harm the economy, that is not why I argue against drug prohibition though...
 
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With that ultra-dismissive comment you make yourself sound like a corporate apologist.


And you sound like a hippy. Of course they aren't perfect. But you can go down to pharmacist and buy/pick up a drug knowing pretty much everything about it: what is in it, what effect it will have, and what side effects. That every packet you buy will be exactly the same. And yes, that's to a large extent down to intervention by people like the MRHA. Which is where we came in: the MRHA wants CBD to be tested properly, and put in place a reporting scheme for problems. Etc, etc. Not a wild west of uncontrolled factories in Karachi churning out drugs with less quality control than the average dance drug.
 
Regulation is not a good thing.

Yes it is, for numerous reasons—safety being one of them.

Theory and reality are two different things. I couldn't get a prescription for a strong painkiller after I'd been in a car crash because of the regulation in the UK.

I've already shown that medicinal CBD is available for pain relief under prescription.

Which would then be a huge cost to the NHS...

We don't know that yet.
 
Yes it is, for numerous reasons—safety being one of them.

It doesn't bring about increased safety, how many people in the UK have been harmed by dodgy CBD before the regulation?

I've already shown that medicinal CBD is available for pain relief under prescription.

Did you not read what I wrote? In practice things are not prescribed when technically available and indicated.
 
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