Apple to Introduce New Macs at October 27 Event
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Is there a UsbC to HDMI or Thunderbold out adapter as all my monitors are hdmi only etc.
Can you even buy USB-C monitors?...
Can you even buy USB-C monitors?...
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Yup! There's an LG widescreen one that I've been looking at buying which has quite a few ports including USB-C.
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It all starts off ok, with people saying they are disappointed at the lack an SD card reader or the like, then the doomongers chime in.
Personally I'm not fussed by only 4 ports on the TB MBP. You can get USB3 type-c flash drives, ssds, pcie enclosures, monitors, docks, card readers etc.. meaning you don't need to carry around an adapter. The lack of a built in card reader is the exception to this or course.
Over time I tend to replace all my legacy equipment anyway. Give it some time and regular USB ports will be as rare as PS/2 and AT ports for keyboards.
As far as only having 4 ports goes, well you can daisy chain anyway so it's a bit of a none issue, unless all of your devices need a full 40Gbps which is highly unlikely. Add to that USB-C is backwards compatible, so all you need to so is replace the cable on legacy devices. My Hero 4 Black comes with one of these.
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Yes... I had an early 2016 XPS15 after having a 2014 rMBP 15... sold it after a month.
Been waiting for this new release to buy a new macbook.
Now I'm getting a Surface Book...
I had one a few years ago and ended up getting a refund by Dell as it was horrible.
Got a macbook at work and an XPS 13 at home and honestly its all about the software, forget the hardware as they both just do the job though I do find the battery life better on my XPS by a few hours.
As I hate OSX as an operating system anyway I personally was always going to prefer the flexibility and options that Windows / Dell offer but if you are used to the way OSX works and you are tied into the Apple eco system then you may regret it.
Getting a good xps 13 seems like a lottery, actually getting any Dell laptop is a lottery. We've had 10 xps 13 in work with 3 having issues so far in under 6 months. Thats 8 skylake and 3 kaby lake ones.
A few xps 15s have failed as well, then their older stuff was just terrible. A friend had 3 mainboard replacements before just flogging it.
A few xps 15s have failed as well, then their older stuff was just terrible. A friend had 3 mainboard replacements before just flogging it.
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I wouldn't say dodgy connectivity, over-use of dongles and wifi issues are crying about nothing.
There is having a vision and then there is taking the ****.. I think its safe to say which one Apple are going for
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Because a £9 dongle or two really brakes the bank when buying a £1500 minimum high end laptop.
I went and had a look at these today in store. By these I mean the 'gimped' sans-touch bar 13".
I didn't really have much of a chance to probe but:
Its footprint was basically the same as the 11" MacBook Air - the 'genius' (or whatever) put them side by side. It was tiny!!
The screen did look very, very nice.
The keyboard felt very similar to the MacBook. Most people wouldn't notice an immediate difference. I didn't.
What an expert reviewer I am.
I didn't really have much of a chance to probe but:
Its footprint was basically the same as the 11" MacBook Air - the 'genius' (or whatever) put them side by side. It was tiny!!
The screen did look very, very nice.
The keyboard felt very similar to the MacBook. Most people wouldn't notice an immediate difference. I didn't.
What an expert reviewer I am.
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Doesn't it effectively make it a £1509 laptop then? No one cares about the single cost of a dongle but people do care about hidden costs (which is effectively what removing those ports does) and people care about the running costs of lost/broken dongles.
I don't think it ruins what is an otherwise impressive machine but it does illustrate some very poor choices being made at Apple, you'd also think that after 25+ pages of this stuff even if you don't disagree you'd understand at least a few reasons people aren't happy about these changes.
It's not the £9 dongle that bothers me but it is rather disheartening that their base cost is so high (I.e the £1450 or whatever).
Frankly if £9 is a deal breaker then you should be reviewing your cash situation in general before considering an insanely expensive laptop.
If you have to spend, say, £100 on adaptors / dongles then yes I would sympathise with the nuisance. I think I would only neeed to buy one or two of the £9 ones at most.
Frankly if £9 is a deal breaker then you should be reviewing your cash situation in general before considering an insanely expensive laptop.
If you have to spend, say, £100 on adaptors / dongles then yes I would sympathise with the nuisance. I think I would only neeed to buy one or two of the £9 ones at most.
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i saw this laptop in the flesh and the led strip on top of the keyboard is bad in terms of quality.
Poor in the flesh IMO
Poor in the flesh IMO
Let me check the maths on that. Yeah, I got the same answer.
I have bought one and I couldn't give a monkeys about the cost of an adaptor or a 'box of tricks' with alternate connections on it.
Just like the poor choices made by Apple when they removed the floppy drive and the CD drive? They will always be at the forefront of what are seen as major mistakes but a lot of the times it works out well. I think a good percentage of people who are complaining are not Apple users and will never likely be. Those who are, who have posted in this very thread, have yet posted anything that makes me think 'yeah, Apple have screwed up'. Things like the Mac Pro I think they've made a mistake, but maybe they don't care about that end of the market any more? I don't know.
I hardly ever transfer anything via USB these days, it's all 'in the cloud' and larger files are done via Ethernet. Peripherals are nearly all Bluetooth. A regular USB adaptor or two and an Ethernet should do me well and there's a dock for anything else.
Look at nearly every iPhone release and people love to hate them, antenna gate, bend gate, jack gate. No matter what they do, they'll get slated and more often than not the discussion of which will far exceed 25 pages on this forum.
I think it's to do with it being a matte surface? Matte looks out of place. Glossy glass would have been/is what I was expecting.
Have to rethink getting the 2016 now. Really does look poor to me.
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Well I'm much happier only having to pay once for something, each to their own.
Not at all, ignoring that floppy drives are quite large and ports are quite small; when they replaced floppy drives we had better alternatives available but that doesn't really apply to SD cards or headphones does it? When there's a good incentive to upgrade the equipment to USB-C then great you get to reap the rewards but until then it's a cost without benefit.
Well yes you've made it fairly clear you don't give a monkeys so changing your mind seems unlikely but I do find it strange you can't at least appreciate others concerns here. No one is saying Apple is doomed, even if the most critical opinions were completely correct at worst this just means a further minor/modest slump in Macbook sales.
True but it applies to any major brand, more so Apple because they've had what 10-15 years of running success? That doesn't make any criticism they get without merit though.
There's not much difference between someone who finds fault with everything they do and someone who thinks they do nothing wrong.
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Just as much fans will tell you literally nothing is wrong and its all perfect for 25 pages to. As long as the discussion is not stupid I think its fair, we all have different needs and requirements from a device, I don't see any harm in someone not liking a product.
I personally love the type-C ports and I'm super happy that its all type-C as if they left old ports around people would just use that and it would slow down adoption. However I think its a ****** customer experience that they don't throw in a dongle. We get the new Dell XPS13 at work and it includes a type-C dongle that gives you hdmi, type-a, type-c ports. Instantly the problem is gone. Same with the Nexus/Pixel phones that come with type-c ports they also included type-A adapters.
I find it annoying that a machine that starts at £2300+ requires me to also then pay extra for some basic functionality that I've come accustom too. I think its even worse that out the box you can't connect your iPhone 7. Finally I'm really annoyed they removed the extra power cable, a ****ing £9 cable was removed that they have had forever in the name of margins :/, on laptops that can go all the way to costing £4000.
Just feels like overall Apple is really milking this transition to padding their numbers, also doesn't help that brexit as ruined the pound so even the base 13" cost a lot more then it would have in the past.