Lease deal trusted sites

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Hello,

Complete PCP and Lease noob, really dont know much about it and want to learn the benefits and differences in regards to cost of lease vs PCP vs personal loan.

One thing I'm struggling with is how do you know what sites are trust worthy leasing sites? There seems to be loads offering all sorts of different deals, how do you identify a trusted site?

Thanks
 
Most sites are just brokers who then deal with the dealers if that makes sense. Some are companies, some are one man bands etc

Most are fine.... I've used many over the years and had no issues. Most of them should have reference to FCA (financial conduct authority) registration and relevant FCA registration number on the site.
 
Complete PCP and Lease noob, really dont know much about it and want to learn the benefits and differences in regards to cost of lease vs PCP vs personal loan.

The cost differences are fairly easy to work out once you have the facts and figures.

Leasing: You're renting the car, and essentially paying for the depreciation + a margin for the supplier over the term you are in possession of the car. Generally the most expensive and inflexible means of getting into a new car, although from a cost perspective there are sometimes some very good deals to be had that can make it the lowest cost option.

PCP: You're borrowing the money to buy the car typically from the manufacturer's own financial partner, which will often mean a higher rate of interest than you may be able to secure a bank loan for. The advantage of this method is that, because you're only borrowing the money for a portion of the car's value the monthly repayments are lower than they would be if you borrowed the money to buy outright, and also a personal loan normally will only go up to £25k, so if the car you want is more expensive and you don't have enough deposit it may be the only way you can borrow enough to buy the car you want. The disadvantage is that you don't own the car until you've made all the monthly payments and the final balloon payment at the end. Until then it remains the property of the lender. Again, sometimes there are good deals to be had, and manufacturers will often provide "deposit contributions" granting you access to a larger discount than would otherwise be available. Normally deals for brand new cars are MUCH better than PCP deals for used cars, which are, frankly, a rip-off most of the time.

Bank Loan: Generally the lowest cost means of borrowing money (there are lenders out there right now who will loan up to £20K at 3.3%), but normally the maximum you can borrow is £25K. Advantages of this method are that you will be the owner of the car from day one and the loan is not secured against the car. It gives you the freedom to do what you want with the car, put as many miles on it as you like, etc.

There's another option too.

Hire Purchase: Using this method you are borrowing the whole sum to buy the car and repay the whole amount during the term of the loan. Disadvantage is that the loan is secured against the car, you are not the legal owner of the car until all the payments are made, and interest rates are typically higher than a bank loan. Advantage is that you can borrow enough to buy the car (e.g. £60k) if you don't have a sizeable deposit.

As for which option gives you the lowest TCO that depends on the deal on offer (how much are you borrowing, what is the cost of this borrowing), the car in question and your likely mileage (what are the residuals like). Sometimes leasing, normally the most expensive, can be the lowest TCO option with the right deal.
 
Thanks I appreciate the time you took to post that, I do know of the difference between the types of offers and your post is a great reminder however I am more looking for how to identify good lease sites, ones that people have used and recommend or if there is a comparison site that people have used and recommend, that kind of thing
 
Generally speaking, it works like this in ascending order of cost (Cheapest to most expensive)

a) Cash Purchase
b) Bank Loan
c) Hire Purchase
d) PCP
e) Leasing

This is the default position - any option other than a) involves somebody somewhere lending money and charging interest (whereas a) just has opportunity cost) and any option other than a or b involves somebody else owning your car.

The more optional extras you fancy the more expensive lease and PCP gets.

HOWEVER...

The above is simple the baseline position - what you'll generally find if you decide you really want a Car ABC and only a Car ABC will do.

Sometimes though there are excellent deals available on leases or PCP's - often because the manufacturer wants a bunch of quality used cars in a few years time and therefore offers heavy support to lease deals. With deals like this it is sometimes possible to find a lease deal where the total cost of the lease is LESS than the depreciation you'd have suffered meaning leasing is the cheapest option.

So, if you can find one of these deals and are happy with a base spec car (adding options to leasing gets super expensive very fast) leasing often works really well.

There have been notable examples of cars like the Golf R, M135i, Citroen Cactus, Skoda Yeti and VW Tiguan available on deals like this over the last few years.
 
Thank you, so if the above is true and I'm sure it is. Why is leasing so popular? Not everyone can find these specific deals but so many people lease these days

For me leasing makes sense as I get bored easily, I spend money I don't need to on modifying etc so it would probably be cheaper for me to lease in that sense but this isn't for me its for my wife who will keep the car 4/5 years and begrudges spending money on cars so based on the above info I imagine she is better off buying used with a personal loan but then I don't want her to end up with a 1 year warranty on a car she'll be keeping much longer
 
Leasing is so popular because people get to drive a new car they cant afford to buy. You always see deals on hot hatches, lots of people want to own a sporty hot hatch.
 
I like leasing because it is the most convenient method of driving a car. There are no showroom sales people to see during the buying & selling/giving back process, or people to negotiate with when buying/selling your own bought car.
You simply make a few short phones calls, send a couple of e-mails to the leasing company and when the car is ready for delivery it gets delivered to your home address and collected at the end of the term.
 
Thank you, so if the above is true and I'm sure it is. Why is leasing so popular? Not everyone can find these specific deals but so many people lease these days

Because monthly cost > total cost for many. Lots of people want a Golf GTI, don't have £25,000 but they do have £400 every month. Some of them know it's more expensive but decide they are happy to pay the extra to facilitate the car they want. Many don't even realise or consider it.
 
I like leasing because it is the most convenient method of driving a car. There are no showroom sales people to see during the buying & selling/giving back process, or people to negotiate with when buying/selling your own bought car.
You simply make a few short phones calls, send a couple of e-mails to the leasing company and when the car is ready for delivery it gets delivered to your home address and collected at the end of the term.

Is that why you almost had another PCP until the bargain Golf R specific leases got pointed out? :p

That level of convenience can be had with virtually all channels of new car purchase, don't pretend only a lease deal offers that level of convenience because it isn't true. You can buy a car in exactly the same way and dispose of it just as easily. Perhaps not quite as keenly priced as it'd be if you put the effort in, obviously, but then neither are 99% of leases..

Don't forget the enormous amount of hassle quite a few of the Golf leasers had with randomly cancelled orders months after ordering etc. Its never as cut and dried that one method easy one method hard.
 
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Yeah suppose the answer is obvious really isn't it.

I'll talk to her tonight she wants to have a look at Yeti's this weekend which I'm pleased with as its a much bigger safer car for when she is driving my son around but warranty on a used example will only be a year, so ill explain the benefits and pitfalls of a lease

Thanks all
 
She wants a mini SUV type thing, they are mostly all mini hatchbacks on stilts and command a premium because they are "in" thing which is another reason I like the Yeti as much more functional than others. She wont ever consider something like an Octavia. I would though
 
I've found leasing suits my requirements of having a new car at a set price on the drive for me and the wife. The way to make it as attractive financially is to have no set idea of what you want other than basic size/door/fuel and never add any options to the base car unless they are offered for free, then just hunt around the piston heads thread, contracthureand leasing website and even mooching around some dealer sites.
 
I find leasing works for me as it's the only way I'd ever afford a Polo GTi, the car that i've always wanted, the top of the tree, the 918/LA/P1 of the VW world.
 
Quick update for anyone interested, we decided against a lease and PCP. We decided to trade her car in and go approved used making up the difference with a loan, that's what she last time and now she owns her car, she is doing it again but this time on a bigger nicer car with more kit so when the loan expires next time she'll have more money in her car and can keep stepping up.

So, we're currently looking for a 2013/14 9th gen Civic ES 1.8 - Quite different from her original requirement of mini SUV but I have an 8th gen with the same engine and she likes driving it and they have a lot of room in the boot and access to the rear is great so they are ideal for hauling young children around and still being a perfectly manageable sized car for her regards parking etc, I'm happy because they are reliable and safer than her current car

Just need to find one now
 
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