Auto high-beams
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I find from the most part, it's HGV drivers that flash as the split beam technology on the F10 BMW does seem to shine up into their cabs. Great tech, just not perfect.
To be completely honest, I often tend to even forget to set it such are the areas I drive these days and mainly motorways
To be completely honest, I often tend to even forget to set it such are the areas I drive these days and mainly motorways
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The way some car lights are going these days full beam is probably less dazzling than the dipped beams, got blinded by a disco on the way home today, in the middle of a town so i can only assume it wasnt mainbeams but wow they were bright.
Seems to be a thing with newer cars, or old boras who've retrofitted what i can only assume to be small fusion reactors to the stock reflectors then leave them adjusted all the way up.
Seems to be a thing with newer cars, or old boras who've retrofitted what i can only assume to be small fusion reactors to the stock reflectors then leave them adjusted all the way up.
The worst thing for dazzling me these days are the super bright LED lights set way to high on many bicycles.......
Guess there getting there own back for all the years that cars have been blinding them.....
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The worst thing for dazzling me these days are the super bright LED lights set way to high on many bicycles.......
Funnily enough,
Earlier this evening, pulling out of a mini roundabout.
Look right, I see two bright blue lights side by side.
Are they...?
#1 A Car with HIDs, 200 yards away.?
#2 A motorcycle with twin HIDs 100 yards away?
#3 A Cyclist with stupidly bright twin point source LED headlights 15 ft away?
Hint for the day, being easier to see is not the same as being more visible. More is not necessarily better!
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This is true, take said landrover, his lights were so massively distractingly bright i couldnt see the brake lights of the yaris in front of me (which fortunately i knew was already there because i'd been following him), i couldnt see if there was anyone behind him until i was nearly past, and if there'd been a pedestrian or a cyclist next to him you wouldnt have seen that coming either.
I'm all for bright lights, i'll not dispute more light is more seeing the branch in the road at night, or the pedestrian in black.
Its the angles that get me, and its very worrying that i can tell the rough age of a car by wether its dip lights trigger the tint on my rearview mirror, anything made in the past couple of years except volvos, mercs and beamers seems to manage it, and most stuff pre 2010 ish doesnt
Loads of moneys drive around London with high beams on! Frustrates me no end, there's literally no need since street lights do all the work as is! I drive with dipped on and I can't remember the last time I has my main beams on
Auto High Beams - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to work out when to dip our lights.
Auto Lights - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on lights when it's dark.
Auto Wipers - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on the wipers when it rains.
Auto Dip Mirrors - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to dip our own mirrors.
Are we genuinely so stupid that these basic functions have to be taken away from the driver and made "auto" instead because a few lazy people complain about having to actually "do" things when they're in a car?
PS dipping side mirrors are amazing
Auto Lights - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on lights when it's dark.
Auto Wipers - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on the wipers when it rains.
Auto Dip Mirrors - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to dip our own mirrors.
Are we genuinely so stupid that these basic functions have to be taken away from the driver and made "auto" instead because a few lazy people complain about having to actually "do" things when they're in a car?
PS dipping side mirrors are amazing
I find people leave it too late to dip as well. It's usually pretty easy to see the general glow of an oncoming car quite a bit before you get to them, even when they are the other side of a hill. Yet people wait until they are 50 yards away to dip. I personally feel that lights have become too bright generally actually.
HID/LED/Xeon lights on modern vehicles like land rovers that are high, can really dangerously dazzle you. Brake lights are now almost painfully bright on some modern cars when following closely in traffic, or if they sit on the brake.
HID/LED/Xeon lights on modern vehicles like land rovers that are high, can really dangerously dazzle you. Brake lights are now almost painfully bright on some modern cars when following closely in traffic, or if they sit on the brake.
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Auto High Beams - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to work out when to dip our lights.
Auto Lights - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on lights when it's dark.
Auto Wipers - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on the wipers when it rains.
Auto Dip Mirrors - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to dip our own mirrors.
Are we genuinely so stupid that these basic functions have to be taken away from the driver and made "auto" instead because a few lazy people complain about having to actually "do" things when they're in a car?
PS dipping side mirrors are amazing
Auto high beams- because apparently some people really are that stupid (unless i'm the only one who's ever seen it)
Auto lights- probably more for turning lights off than on (we've all done it, especially annoying when yer door sensor breaks and the buzzer doesnt go)
Auto wipers- because somehow since the year 2000 car manufacturers have been unable to make a wiping system that doesnt judder in light rain that doesnt sufficiently lubricate the windscreen between wipes, or the blades have got worse.
Auto dip mirrors- because car manufacturers cant seem to get headlight alignment right any more so you need to dip much more often (also because of the first point)
Also, while we're on the subject of lights, how about those flashing brakelights, surely someone should have thought inducing epilepsy in everyone nearby isnt nessecarily a good thing
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Auto High Beams - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to work out when to dip our lights.
Auto Lights - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on lights when it's dark.
Auto Wipers - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to switch on the wipers when it rains.
Auto Dip Mirrors - because car manufacturers think we're too thick to dip our own mirrors.
Are we genuinely so stupid that these basic functions have to be taken away from the driver and made "auto" instead because a few lazy people complain about having to actually "do" things when they're in a car?
PS dipping side mirrors are amazing
Its nothing to do with what you suggest. It takes away a function that the driver needs to pay attention to allowing them to focus more on the road.
I have auto lights / wipers / high beam / dipping mirror and think its brilliant.
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I find I get dazzled by oncoming headlights multiple times a day and it tends to only be by newer cars so I can only assume it is either auto full beams not working properly or that cars these days just have much brighter lights than old cars as standard.
I question the virtue of headlights at all in well street-lit areas
Bright sidelights are sufficient, anything more than that is distracting.
I miss "Dim-Dip", it was perfect for urban driving, why the EU abolished it I really do not know.
Personally I think it works quickly enough. Of course it needs to "see" the other headlights or taillights in order to activate, but reaction time seems very quick 90% of the time. I don't know how fast, but on the odd occasion where others have flashed me my headlights have already dipped before their flash has finished.
What it doesn't deal with well is lorries coming over a crest, where you can see the running lights at the top of the cab (and therefore the windscreen) but not the headlights. In these instances I dip them manually.
I use it all the time in my M135i, but this also has LED headlights so maybe the reaction time is faster than the Xenon option? I also had it in my E91 (with Xenons), and I did sometimes feel that I was dazzling people.
I've also tried JLRs implementation of it and IMO it is much slower to react than the latest BMW incarnation.
What it doesn't deal with well is lorries coming over a crest, where you can see the running lights at the top of the cab (and therefore the windscreen) but not the headlights. In these instances I dip them manually.
I use it all the time in my M135i, but this also has LED headlights so maybe the reaction time is faster than the Xenon option? I also had it in my E91 (with Xenons), and I did sometimes feel that I was dazzling people.
I've also tried JLRs implementation of it and IMO it is much slower to react than the latest BMW incarnation.
No matter how fast the reaction of these systems they will by design be too slow.
By definition they have to see the oncoming lights to react to them, and by seeing them it is already too late.
The system could be instantaneous and react in microseconds to seeing the oncoming lights, but even then it will be too slow.
An alert thoughtful considerate human will dip their lights before seeing the actual oncoming lights.
Just by seeing the faint glow on hedges or trees around the bend ahead or over the crest, a human will dip their lights.
When a system can replicate that I will use it until then it immediately gets turned off the moment I get into a car fitted with the function.
Rubbish.
The more "auto" this that and the other fitted the less attention people pay to actually driving.
Look at the current Tesla's, with auto steer, and auto drive, and the amount of near misses and the couple of fatal accidents that have happened because people rely on it all too much, and stop paying attention and concentrating on actually driving.
By definition they have to see the oncoming lights to react to them, and by seeing them it is already too late.
The system could be instantaneous and react in microseconds to seeing the oncoming lights, but even then it will be too slow.
An alert thoughtful considerate human will dip their lights before seeing the actual oncoming lights.
Just by seeing the faint glow on hedges or trees around the bend ahead or over the crest, a human will dip their lights.
When a system can replicate that I will use it until then it immediately gets turned off the moment I get into a car fitted with the function.
Rubbish.
The more "auto" this that and the other fitted the less attention people pay to actually driving.
Look at the current Tesla's, with auto steer, and auto drive, and the amount of near misses and the couple of fatal accidents that have happened because people rely on it all too much, and stop paying attention and concentrating on actually driving.
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This is a pet peeve of mine, on my way to and from work, I drive through some nice areas, which generally means I see lots of new Range Rovers and other suv's they all have nice modern lights and are very bright. If I'm behind one at the traffic lights their brake lights are at my eye level, they all sit on the brake, my car glows brighter than the sun!!!
It also gets people into bad habits, my missus' car has auto everything, when she drives mine I have to remind her to turn the lights on before we set off as she doesn't actively think about them anymore.
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Yeah, it's the problem of reliance on technology.
I remember my friend reversing into and hitting his garage with a hire car. Was waiting for it to start beeping with the reversing sensors than actually look round to see what's behind him.
I remember my friend reversing into and hitting his garage with a hire car. Was waiting for it to start beeping with the reversing sensors than actually look round to see what's behind him.