How much is too much (Alcohol)

Energize said:
Lay off the ketamine mate. Comparing mountain biking or eating a mcdonalds to alcoholism that will lead to certain liver disease is chalk and cheese.
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Is it?
Liver disease isn't a certainty because you drink, becoming morbidly obese isn't a certainty because you live on McDs, coming off the bike and smashing your skull in isn't a certainty if you throw yourself down a downhill course but they're all a risk associated with the activity.
 
I think beer is safer then spirits, switch to that for a year. If you cant, its a problem.

I had somebody die recently who had kidney problems for years as an effect of abuse, then moved to also damage of the liver and was gone quite quickly after. If you lose function there, you dont last long and a transplant in time is not that common afaik
 
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tom_e said:
Is it?
Liver disease isn't a certainty because you drink, becoming morbidly obese isn't a certainty because you live on McDs, coming off the bike and smashing your skull in isn't a certainty if you throw yourself down a downhill course but they're all a risk associated with the activity.
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There's a risk associated with everything of course, but that's not the same as certain liver damage from the amounts some people in this thread are boasting about.
 
Energize said:
You took the words out of my mouth.



Lay off the ketamine mate. Comparing mountain biking or eating a mcdonalds to alcoholism that will lead to certain liver disease is chalk and cheese.
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Please see below post..... I can tell you right now that my mates who do MTB have cost the NHS more than my drinking has, maybe down the line it might be different... But drinking once a week is hardly "making people sad" and costing the NHS.... Do you suggest we all just give up everything that could cost the NHS money down the line? Or perhaps the government actually properly funds and invests in its future?

As I said... Jog on mate, you're sounding like a complete wet wipe!

tom_e said:
Is it?
Liver disease isn't a certainty because you drink, becoming morbidly obese isn't a certainty because you live on McDs, coming off the bike and smashing your skull in isn't a certainty if you throw yourself down a downhill course but they're all a risk associated with the activity.
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Amen.

Spook187 said:
Roll on Christmas for plenty of binge drinking, and it won't cross my mind how much it's costing the NHS.
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This makes me sad.... /Tear, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
tom_e said:
Is it?
Liver disease isn't a certainty because you drink, becoming morbidly obese isn't a certainty because you live on McDs, coming off the bike and smashing your skull in isn't a certainty if you throw yourself down a downhill course but they're all a risk associated with the activity.
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Certainty, nope...likely given time...probably.

There does seem to be a lot of defensive attitudes, particularly from those who IMO drink excessively. Though I appreciate excessive is relative.

Justification under the 'I paid my bit to the NHS' and 'It's my life' etc is all well and good, you're right...it's your life, and I don't doubt you've paid in to the system. However, some of the boasts here will almost certainly lead to 'something' if left unchecked.

You hear every day of a woman who lived until 110 and smoked all her life and drank brandy every night, that story is a lot more appealing than the millions who die prematurely from health risks associated with varying lifestyles.

Most enjoy a drink, I could never understand the desire to drink every night though...
 
itchy said:
Alcohol consumption is down to time it takes for you to drink.

I drink loads as I have said but my first 3 cans is over a period of about 3 hours.

1.8 units x 3 = 5.4 units

The body processes roughly 1 unit an hour, so if I drink 3 cans over 3 hours I only have 2.4 units of alcohol in me.

Now if I drank 3 cans in an hour which is hard with Guinness then I would have nearly twice the amount of alcohol in my system at 4.4 units.

Time is the key with drink, drink too fast you will be mashed and dead pretty quick if you do it all the time.

If you sip a nice whiskey and it takes you an hour, then nearly half of the units are cancelled out.

For example say I have 10 pints over the course of 7 hours.........

10*2.2=22 units but as it has taken 7 hours to consume 10 pints then I only have 15 units inside my body.

I sleep a minimum 8 hours a day so there is another 8 units taken away, so am left with 7 when I awake. Although I am a little different as I have a very high metabolic rate.
When I was tested at the clinic after a serious bender with the lads I had about 14 pints, I came out at just under the limit for driving on only 6 hours sleep.

As I don't drink in the day normally and only usually drink around 5-6pm by that time my body is totally alcohol free.

Each to there own some people can and some cannot, I do not promote alcohol abuse as my cousin is doing it now. (just remembered go to ring my mother see you in about an hour) :rolleyes:
Serious chats going around the family at the moment over her.

Point is if you worried you doing a bottle of whatever a week then stop.
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My sister said a similar thing to me a while back, she is an alcoholic, the same kind of story comes out of her mouth, alcoholics make reason after reason that what they do is fine once alcohol gets hold of them.
 
[TFU] Thegoon84;30213931 said:
6 days recovery time enough? Plus 2-3 ltrs of water a day and plenty of exercise, pretty sure that's a decent recovery time.

And as for the effects of alcoholism, I'm well aware of them. A friends mother died of it... Saw when it does to people when I visited her in hospital.



Phew that's ok then.... Because if, by that point (hopefully not) if I do need a liver transplant I can feel happy knowing I'd have paid around 3 times that in to the NHS.

Then with the change, they can treat all the people who sit at their computers on forums all day who don't get any exercise and have serious health problems because of it.

/Drop the mic.
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Did you really just say 'Drop the mic'?

What a bell :D:D:D

Arazi said:
You will find alcoholics do that when being questioned about drink, it is a typical defence stance, but i think you know that.
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To be fair, he most probably nodded off after his 11th can.

koolpc said:
Living on this earth is a risk! Eating at McDonalds is a risk! etc etc etc
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Also, lol at this logic.
 
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[TFU] Thegoon84;30214399 said:
Please see below post..... I can tell you right now that my mates who do MTB have cost the NHS more than my drinking has, maybe down the line it might be different... But drinking once a week is hardly "making people sad" and costing the NHS.... Do you suggest we all just give up everything that could cost the NHS money down the line? Or perhaps the government actually properly funds and invests in its future?

As I said... Jog on mate, you're sounding like a complete wet wipe!
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No one is talking about drinking once a week, you are on a different planet.
 
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