4 More States Legalize Cannabis - who's next?

[Tefal]

You've clearly not been around people like me when they've done even a moderate amount of certain illicit substances... or if you were, you had friends keeping you safely away.


Outside, or in the foyer, maybe?
You said " most places you go to socialise" - First place I could think of that won't let you take your own stuff is the cinema.
But the principle applies - If they stock something, there will be people taking their own in. Bar, cinema, whatever.


Seen a bloke down Reading market (the one behind Pavlov's) selling a pair of 32GB drives for a fiver...
If they can do cheap, counterfeit Tommy Hilfiger and Addidas stuff, I'm sure they can make cheap crappy knock-off weed easily enough.

Errr so youre compering legal chinese made goods to smuggled unregulated food and drug products?

Kinda a differnt kettle of fish.


Liek i say same reaosn hardly anyone makes beer its a lot of effort to grow your own and start up costs. People will just buy it in tesco

When legal it will be cheaper than now and very few grow it now

 

[ttaskmaster]

Errr so youre compering legal chinese made goods to smuggled unregulated food and drug products?
Kinda a differnt kettle of fish.

Legal?
What part of "counterfeit" is legal?
What part of "cheap crap that probably doesn't even work" is legal?
What part of dodgy market trader is legal?

It's all blatantly illegal junk!!!
The point is that, as long as there's a market for something, there will be people selling cheaper knock-off versions - I don't see weed being any different.

Liek i say same reaosn hardly anyone makes beer its a lot of effort to grow your own and start up costs. People will just buy it in tesco

Enough people buying knock off tobacco, despite it being sold in Tesco... Again, how will this be any different?

When legal it will be cheaper than now and very few grow it now

Few enough people know what they're even looking for that the guys standing along the canal in Camden can sell little bags stuffed with sycamore leaves.
If you can produce weed, even really substandard stuff, at home and flog it cheaper than you can buy it in Tesco, people will do that.

 

[Tefal]

Tiny numbers of people.

No where near enough to justify the argument that its illegal because the government couldnt tax it if it was legal.

As proven by every single one of your arguments, the government hasn't banned tobbacco, electronics or alcohol despite there being an untaxed black market

 

[ttaskmaster]

No where near enough to justify the argument that its illegal because the government couldnt tax it if it was legal.

That was never my argument.
My assertion was that any legalisation will still result in people illegally DIYing it in order to pay less, even if their product is inferior, and more people are more likely to go down that route if the legal stuff is too expensive because there already is a 'growing' culture set up and in progress - By comparison, alcohol is mostly cheap as chips, or at least there's a cheaper Value version, making DIY fairly pointless... while tobacco is pretty unfashionable these days and there's also a thriving 'Duty Free' market for both imported (mate brung it back from holiday) of varying standards and outright fake cack.

I can't foresee Value Viper any more than I can foresee "This is not just Marijuana and Skunk... this is M&S Marijuana and Skunk!".
So that means you either pay full price at the proper shop, or you get it off someone who knows someone, like they do already.

As proven by every single one of your arguments, the government hasn't banned tobbacco, electronics or alcohol despite there being an untaxed black market

But they have put up laws against cheap knock-offs and substandard products, yet such markets still thrive, which again is my point.

 

[Worthy]

But they have put up laws against cheap knock-offs and substandard products, yet such markets still thrive, which again is my point.

There'll be knock-off weed like there's knock-off everything, the vast majority will still buy it from the shops like they do with everything else.

 

[ttaskmaster]

There'll be knock-off weed like there's knock-off everything, the vast majority will still buy it from the shops like they do with everything else.

Do they really buy everything else from the shops?
I'd say there's still a big percentage that use the cheap-tat markets, as they're still going - Surely the traders can't make THAT much off 50p packs of lighters, clothes pegs and counterfeit DVDs?