Any history buffs ? Why are Nazi worst in history

stopper said:
Debunked by who, the winners?
Fact is no one knows the truth, due to all the lies surrounding it.
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This is nonsense. The Germans documented the Holocaust extensively, and much of that documentation survived their attempts to destroy it. The figure of 6 million killed is canon to all serious historians, and most dead were Jews. The other groups made up about 1/4 or less. This is settled history.
 
Bonjour said:
If you expand that to the colonisation of the Americas by Europeans, it is certainly up there with the worst of them. As there are no accurate population records prior to the arrival of Europeans, it's hard to put a number to it. Top estimate is over 120million.
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Though, I do not think this was necessarily as part of a systematic policy of destruction. More that the native population had little resistance to European diseases (In particular, I believe, Smallpox, which spread like wildfire)

But then hey, I thought mass immigration was supposed to be of great benefit to native populations, that is the mantra today is it not?? Just think how Culturally enriched they must have been! :p
 
Meridian said:
This is nonsense. The Germans documented the Holocaust extensively, and much of that documentation survived their attempts to destroy it. The figure of 6 million killed is canon to all serious historians, and most dead were Jews. The other groups made up about 1/4 or less. This is settled history.
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No it is not - around 11 million were killed by the Nazi`s , of which around 6 million were jewish. The other 5 million were non jewish.

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=gvKVLcMVIuG&b=394663#3

3. How many non-Jewish civilians were murdered during World War II?
Answer: While it is impossible to ascertain the exact number, the recognized figure is approximately 5,000,000. Among the groups which the Nazis and their collaborators murdered and persecuted were: Gypsies, Serbs, Polish intelligentsia, resistance fighters from all the nations, German opponents of Nazism, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, habitual criminals, and the "anti-social," e.g. beggars, vagrants, and hawkers.
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Simon Wiesenthal was THE leading Nazi hunter.
 
TrafficMaster said:
Adolf Hitler had some good ideas, one of which was purging society of genetic diseases.

OK, his practicality was a bit off, but the idea in itself was a sound one. We are still trying to do exaclty that to this day, but with different methods like medicine and genetic engineering. Back then this wasnt the case, and the only option was to stop people with really unlucky genetics from breeding, or, erm, murder them, which was a little extreme really.
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Genetic impurities as opposed to genetic diseases... And according to the Nazi ideology genetic impurity ranged from being Jewish to being gay or deaf or any little thing that made your nose slightly crooked or your eyes squint.
 
Here's another controversial idea then - both the USA and Russia used Nazi research , and it still can be referenced today....specifically the work on the effects of reduced temperature and pressure on the human body. It was directly used to create space suits.

ethical? nope , scientific? ofc .
 
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DR Sigmund Rasher at Dachau did detailed research on end stage hypothermia ; research that today cannot happen (freezing live people) , also on low pressure and high altitude (directly contributing to creation of space suits).

Even in 2016 his is the gold standard for predicting high altitude exposure results.
 
I'm not really sure that a league table of "most evil" is something that can be objectively measured and created. But anyway, here is the indisputable top 10 most evil regimes the world has ever seen:

1. Humans.
2. Humans.
3. Humans.
4. Humans.
5. Humans.
6. Humans.
7. Humans.
8. Humans.
9. Humans.
10. Humans.

Those humans are a pretty nasty bunch.

PS.. don't the Inca get an honourable mention, here? With their penchant for human sacrifice and all that jazz? They were pretty messed up.
 
FoxEye said:
I'm not really sure that a league table of "most evil" is something that can be objectively measured and created. But anyway, here is the indisputable top 10 most evil regimes the world has ever seen:

1. Humans.
2. Humans.
3. Humans.
4. Humans.
5. Humans.
6. Humans.
7. Humans.
8. Humans.
9. Humans.
10. Humans.

Those humans are a pretty nasty bunch.

PS.. don't the Inca get an honourable mention, here? With their penchant for human sacrifice and all that jazz? They were pretty messed up.
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Human sacrifices only happened in times of dire need such as famine. To sate the god so he would bring rain or bless their harvest etc etc. I think to really qualify as evil is them intentionally trying to exterminate a particular culture/ethnicity. The Mongols only wiped out the towns that resisted them, they left towns alone who surrendered peacefully and only levied a tax against them.
 
God killed everyone except 8 people on a ship in a massive flood. God is the worst. It is true cause the Bibull says so. /thread. :p
 
StriderX said:
The rest of the world barely cared about Nazis and their anti-jew programs, if we were so incensed, it would have ended in 1933.

Or at least 1938, when the order to kill them was made official.
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Plus the fact that at the beginning they decided to make a packet out of selling them visas if they left. Except Australia would not take any, USA and loads of others refused to allow any. The world was pretty hostile to immigration. A thing I found out recently was there was a conference in Switzerland about this and is was the Swiss who insisted that Jewish passports must have the Star on them.
 
diamount said:
Human sacrifices only happened in times of dire need such as famine. To sate the god so he would bring rain or bless their harvest etc etc. I think to really qualify as evil is them intentionally trying to exterminate a particular culture/ethnicity. The Mongols only wiped out the towns that resisted them, they left towns alone who surrendered peacefully and only levied a tax against them.
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I only know what I've seen on TV (the ususal suspects like Nat Geo). Didn't they have a version of football that ended in the losing side all being ritually decapitated? Also it seemed to me that ritual human sacrifice was normal. Sure, they sacrificed *more* people as their civilisation was collapsing (years of crop failure iirc), but ritual sacrifice was part of their religion and culture.
 
diamount said:
Human sacrifices only happened in times of dire need such as famine. To sate the god so he would bring rain or bless their harvest etc etc. I think to really qualify as evil is them intentionally trying to exterminate a particular culture/ethnicity. The Mongols only wiped out the towns that resisted them, they left towns alone who surrendered peacefully and only levied a tax against them.
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This was standard practise in the Middle Ages in Europe. If a town surrendered then it did not get sacked. They even had a system that say eg if they were not relieved by such and such a time they could surrender and not be sacked.

Pretty sure in S America in battle the object was to capture the enemy and he was then sacrificed. This was the cultural clash with the Spaniards who only numbered about 300 and could have been wiped out. They could not believe people would kill the way the Spaniards did.
 
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