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And some probably think it's all about 'protecting the children'. Same people normally struggle to use parental controls on their router/security software.
Poll: Investigatory Powers Bill or "Snoopers' Charter" has been approved
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And some probably think it's all about 'protecting the children'. Same people normally struggle to use parental controls on their router/security software.
Not always. See speeding tickets, wifi/internet access and various other laws that have come in recently that are designed to say you're guilty until you prove you're innocent. Something like this could easily end up like that. You can already be jailed for not being able to open encrypted files on your devices.
Water under the bridge. If we're ever reduced to chocolate rations, you can have mine.
Come to an OcUK meet and I'll happily buy you a beer!
People get a bit emotional on here without realising how much overlap there is.
The SNP have got our backs...
http://www.snp.org/the_snp_won_t_support_the_investigatory_powers_bill_unless_it_is_amended
Imagine the following Mexican standoff:
You're about to quit one of the listed services to join another one. Your interviewer can snoop on your shenans, and you can snoop on his... Then you meet! Hawkward!
Just read page 247 of the bill - Schedule 4 — Relevant public authorities and designated senior officers etc.
Watch Managers are not even allowed access to sensitive incidents (where a fatality has occurred) without authorisation from a Group Manager, how can they possibly be given full access to the data?!??!
I know people in this position and above that I sigh at on a daily basis!
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Just read page 247 of the bill - Schedule 4 — Relevant public authorities and designated senior officers etc.
Watch Managers are not even allowed access to sensitive incidents (where a fatality has occurred) without authorisation from a Group Manager, how can they possibly be given full access to the data?!??!
I know people in this position and above that I sigh at on a daily basis!
You may well do, but a civil servant helping to compile the list for the government might not.
Got a point about the European courts. As for human rights, well, May can just push through the British Bill of Rights, and burn the bits getting in the way.
I apologise if I've missed it but is access to this data without warrant? I.e anyone can be looked up at any time?
I'm just wondering why so many organisations need access to internet records that have no relation to their fields. It seems dangerous if this is the case. Blackmail could well be a booming business.
I'm just wondering why so many organisations need access to internet records that have no relation to their fields. It seems dangerous if this is the case. Blackmail could well be a booming business
.So? What has the fact that VPNs are set up in business and enterprise got to do with the fact that criminals use public VPN providers?
All the VPNs everyone is recommending are public VPNs. Where's the signup page for your work's vpn network?? They have absolutely nothing to do with work's VPN lmao. Just goes to show how little people know about networking and IT in general 
What an absolutely bizarre response which has got nothing to do with what I said.
Access to work VPNs is strictly limited, and most probably fully logged (I've set up a few VPNs in my time). They are true Virtual Private Networks.
The VPNs people are using to get access to american "iPlayer" websites are not private at all. Any criminal can easily sign up to any VPN service and then their traffic is merged with your gmail traffic/whatever and it both appears as if its coming from the same endpoint.
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Damn that exploded it was averaging 100 signatures an hour. Now its 4500 in the past hour
. Nice to see it's not an influx of overseas signers either this time .Although I fully expect it to get ignored even if it reaches millions.
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I apologise if I've missed it but is access to this data without warrant? I.e anyone can be looked up at any time?
I'm just wondering why so many organisations need access to internet records that have no relation to their fields. It seems dangerous if this is the case. Blackmail could well be a booming business
The logging bit is without a warrant, I believe. The records are stored for a year. They'll still need a warrant to bug specific computers/networks. But a quick google also brings up:
Which can be stretched.
Damn that exploded it was averaging 100 signatures an hour. Now its 4500 in the past hour
Although I fully expect it to get ignored even if it reaches millions.
Jack's old campaigning tricks are bearing fruit.
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That's the bit that concerns me if they're "easily" accessed without warrant. I know it says a filtered and targetted investigation by police or intelligence services but in that case why on earth does the NHS or health and safety have access
To raise the red flag or participate in said investigations. Operation Honey Badger!
Did the SNP actually vote against it, as they said they would?
It sounds like you think VPN traffic is encrypted even beyond the endpoint!!!That is astonishing. Encryption ENDS at the endpoint. lmao. If someone is accessing criminal material over a VPN it's still openly visible beyond the endpoint. (Unless there is service level encryption involved but that would be a bit advanced for GD).
When you sign up to a Public VPN provider, you get given a list of possible endpoints you can use.
You connect to this endpoint, and then your external IP changes to the IP address of the endpoint.
There could be upwards of 30+ people using this same endpoint. Therefore you are now sharing the same public IP address as 30+ other completely random people.
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