Anxiety/worrying

itchy said:
I just don't give a **** anymore.

I know were op is coming from and it used to haunt me day and night.

One day I just said "F`em "What are they going to do?" Nothing!

If something happens then you move on in the world, it wont end.

Only thing people should worry about is friends and family who are ill, everything else is insignificant. ;)
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Good on you mate. And really that attitude is one of the key ways to beat it. If you just don't care anymore, it can't 'hurt' you. You don't have to give up, but just stop caring about the bad things and they won't happen.

I have my Panic disorder/GAD under full control, I still have to take meds every day, but realising the 'go on then do your worst, I don't care anymore' attitude was something you need to do to beat it and that was a big epiphany for me in understanding Anxiety.
 
Top tip: Go and do a parkrun on a Sat morning, especially if it's freezing outside, about an hour afterwards you will feeling pretty destressed.
 
From "Wear Sunscreen"

Don't worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4 p.m. on some idle Tuesday

True enough, but it's still easy to worry unduly over things you cannot control.
I personally like to use the circle of influence/circle of concern when I find something that's worrying me excessively.

Short article:
http://ndoherty.com/circle-of-influence-circle-of-concern/
 
Some decent advice in here.. I think we all do suffer from anxiety and mild depression to some scale.

I wonder if it's gotten worse for humanity as a race over the years though? With more attachment to materialism etc

There are some great books out there, it's about finding the best method that suits you and to start "reprogramming" your mind as it very powerful :p

Only you have made your thinking the way it is, so only you can change it for the better.
 
Another anxiety sufferer here, so clearly you're not alone in feeling the way you do OP, even though it's easy to feel like you are.

I think the hardest thing I struggle with is actually 'realising' when I'm anxious, over-thinking, acting irrationally etc. In the moment, you feel like your decisions or actions are completely justified yet when you're clear-headed again, you look back and wonder what led you to that point.

I'll definitely be checking out that Mindfulness book at some point. I've got the Headspace app on my phone too but I've not got round to trying it yet.
 
Just another thing to add since I've not seen anyone mention it and it was one of the less intuitive things to me (I expect the books mentioned might cover it) but the idea of accidentally re-enforcing your worrying; for example (my anxiety is probably slightly more health-based but the idea is the same):

Say you're at work, you feel a bit light headed and start to enter that spiral of worrying and overthinking the whole situation - "Oh, is there something wrong? Is this normal? What if I'm going to collapse? Oh god that would be so embarrassing what would my co-workers think? What if I have to go to hospital? etc. etc."

Assuming the usual "just stay calm" "deep breaths" type of thing isn't helping and you can feel things getting out of hand, you might assume that a good solution could be to get up for a minute, stretch your legs, maybe go grab a glass of water or something "Yeah maybe I'm just dehydrated, maybe I've just been staring at this screen too long"

But the problem with doing that is it subconsciously confirms or re-enforces the original idea (that something really was wrong) - Good job you got up to get that drink otherwise something really bad would have happened. Sometimes you have to force yourself to stick with the discomfort of the situation that's worrying you, don't bail out, wait until the moment passes and nothing bad at all happened...

I'm sure any of the recommended books above would explain it better, but like I said until it was pointed out to me I had no idea that I might be making things worse
 
First of all you are probably completely normal.

Men, young men especially, worry the living daylights out of stuff.

Appreciate that worrying about stuff doesn't make any bloody difference anyway so what is the point.

A bit like Spears says in Band of Brothers, to be an effective soldier you have to appreciate you are dead already and only then you can get on with the soldiering.....

Try to imagine the problem you have, the focus of your worrying and then imagine elevating and looking down on yourself and then your town, city, country, the northern hemisphere and earth and appreciate how small that problem really is in the grand scheme.

Talk about stuff. If you have a toothache you go so see a great dentist don't you. Man up and speak to the practice nurse at your GP's. They will give you some great advice and they may offer you some professional, qualified strategies for managing your worries.

My advice is manage your life professionally. Have a 3 to 5 year life, lead a meaningful life. Plan and be prepared, be organised and this will minimise things you can control going pear-shaped.

BW pod
 
Rudeboy1 said:
Hello guys,

Not sure if you would call this anxiety? Basically I worry about pretty much everything on a daily basis, could be things at work such as, where I've messed something up and thinking i'm going to get the sack or not wanting to go to certain places/restaurants incase I see certain people and even though most of the time things turn out to be okay, something else will come up and always sit in the back of my mind.

Just wondering if anyone else is the same and what they do to help ignore it?

I try to tell myself, if it's not going to matter in 5 months, don't spend longer than 5 minutes worrying about it!

I know this may sound petty to some people, but it's one thing I find really hard to deal with.

Just thought I could make a thread to discuss things with everyone!

Not meaning to bring doom & gloom to people's day :D
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I always give this advice when I read such threads; Make sure you get your thyroid tested.

I had the exact same issue a year ago. Worrying and anxiety to a degree where I was left nearly breathless. The things I worried about, logically, made no sense. My heart rate would increase and go all erratic and the anxiety would be awful

Since I've started taking medication for my thyroid, all that disappeared and I feel more normal now.

Alternatively, read into Stoicism
 
dacads said:
Some decent advice in here.. I think we all do suffer from anxiety and mild depression to some scale.

I wonder if it's gotten worse for humanity as a race over the years though? With more attachment to materialism etc

There are some great books out there, it's about finding the best method that suits you and to start "reprogramming" your mind as it very powerful :p

Only you have made your thinking the way it is, so only you can change it for the better.
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Good points and very important in my opinion. Over the past two years I've consciously deprogrammed myself from materialism. This was a conscious effort to consume (buy) less and direct my focus on people around me and hobbies that don't require a lot of 'stuff'. My gaming PC aside of course!

Luckily the girlfriend is completely on board with this lifestyle. We've done a massive clear out of rubbish, sold near enough 90% of our possessions - part forced through a move to another city, but mostly because we wanted to.

The psychological effect of walking into a tidy and uncluttered place is massive. The psychological effect of literally wanting for nothing is fantastic. Apart from nipping into a cafe now and again, I've not seen the inside of a shop for months. Not seen the inside of a shopping mall for near enough a year.

Another thing we've done is to decouple ourselves from media. We've not watched live TV since last year. The odd sporting event aside of course. We don't use social media and only spend about 10 min a day reading news online.

Little things but it gets you out of the mindset of always having to be on the go, being in the know (of usually worthless information), etc.

It's a slower and more relaxed pace of life. That, in addition to thyroid medication have helped my anxiety massively.

In the new year I'm getting rid of my iPhone and work smart phone and going back to an old Nokia or something similar. Little by little we try and chip away of these distractions of mostly worthless expendable rubbish and try and focus on more 'real' things.
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
Only one thing worked for me (In regards to constant anxiety), medication. I've always exercised, eaten healthy and never smoked. People used to always parrot stuff like that at me.

You have 3 choices really to tackle it beyond say making sure you keep healthy, get enough sleep etc.

CBT sessions,
Meditation or doing something like Yoga which helps mindfulness,
Medication.

I would try all resources before using drugs, but they can also be used temporarily until you get a handle on the other things and you come off them. Speak to your GP if it's causing you problems and see if you can be referred for CBT.
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I tried CBT, just felt like a knob sitting there listening to the same people (as in other people there for help) talk every week, didnt go to the last session as it just made me even more depressed going.

I just live with it now, its hard especially being married, i feel like sometimes i would be able to handle it better alone but then on the other side im grateful i have someone to vent to and support me.
 
Rudeboy1 said:
Hello guys,

Not sure if you would call this anxiety? Basically I worry about pretty much everything on a daily basis, could be things at work such as, where I've messed something up and thinking i'm going to get the sack or not wanting to go to certain places/restaurants incase I see certain people and even though most of the time things turn out to be okay, something else will come up and always sit in the back of my mind.

Just wondering if anyone else is the same and what they do to help ignore it?

I try to tell myself, if it's not going to matter in 5 months, don't spend longer than 5 minutes worrying about it!

I know this may sound petty to some people, but it's one thing I find really hard to deal with.

Just thought I could make a thread to discuss things with everyone!

Not meaning to bring doom & gloom to people's day :D
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Sounds like generalised anxiety disorder.

It's often treated with antidepressants, anticonvulsants or antipsychotics.
 
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Johno please? said:
I tried CBT!:eek:
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I know what it means lock and ball torture. O/jking.. :D

Just let go and F'em, if you have never suffered you will not know what it is to just let it go, its fantastic. ;)

Try it you anxious people, just think F'em am me and I feel and do what I like, you dont like it? Then screw you am happy doing what I like! :D
 
I've suffered from crippling anxiety my entire adult life. It got to the point where it wrecked my career and has put a serious strain on my personal relationships.
I'm at the point where even going to the corner shop for milk will take me 2 hours to buck up the courage to leave the house and then once I'm out, I will do it as fast as possible. More than 2 people in a queue in front of me at the shop? I will leave and go home.
I can't go out and play with my son because I get so scared when I'm away from surroundings that I'm comfortable with that I end up just standing there, dizzy as hell.
I've been in and out of therapy my entire life but I've had all my sessions now and all the NHS want to do is pump me with drugs which make me feel worse.
On the plus side, I am managing to hold down a job at the moment and can get my son to nursery in the mornings (although any disruption or traffic has me going straight back home again).
 
"Is this a profitable train of thought?"

If the answer is no, switch to another subject.

Everyone has the odd worrying thought pop into their head, assessing danger is part of our survival instincts. Dwelling on the ones which we know serve.no purpose is the problem and recognising when one is doing it is key.

Once you realise you're thinking some rubbish, switch to something more useful!

It takes practice but is possible.
 
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