UK: Two Systems of Justice

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Full article: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8893/uk-justice

- Tommy Robinson has not been -- as Choudary was -- at the heart of a nexus of terrorists and terrorist-supporters going back years. He has not been on friendly terms with numerous people who have beheaded civilians and carried out suicide bombings.

- Robinson is in an exceptionally unfortunate position. He is not a radical Islamist and nor is he from any discernible minority. He is a white working-class man who, it appears, can thus not only be harassed by certain authorities with impunity, but can find few if any defenders of his rights among the vast panoply of people in our societies who are only too keen to defend the rights of Islamists.

- Civil liberties groups such as "Liberty," which are so stringent in protecting the rights of Islamist groups such as "Cage," are silent on the case of Tommy Robinson.
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WTH is going on in our country? :mad:
 
He's unfortunate because he doesn't even use his real name but a set of pseudonyms, and is nothing more than a stupid football hooligan.
 
I had the displeasure of meeting this guy once when I worked in Luton and he had organized an EDL march through the town centre. I have no issue with his use of our freedom of speech liberty, what I have an issue with is him spitting at some elements of the Asian demographic and ultimately inciting violence.

If he is still suffering repercussions because of what he did back in the day so be it.
 
Civil liberties groups such as "Liberty," which are so stringent in protecting the rights of Islamist groups such as "Cage," are silent on the case of Tommy Robinson.
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That's because he's a Richard.
 
"In the end the police did find something -- a mortgage fraud matter -- for which Robinson was eventually tried and found guilty."

yeh because attempting to defraud with others is not serious at all.

"In 2014, he was imprisoned for eighteen months."
of which he served 6 with conditions set for the rest of his term.

"Even after his release, the effort to find something on Robinson continued. His movements were restricted. His ability to speak and congregate was restricted. He was repeatedly threatened with a return to prison for alleged breaches of bail conditions. "

He was basically told not to be a ****, and stay off the EDL coolaid and he couldnt help himself.

Guys a moron, that wouldnt even be a consideration for the law/police if he had actually protested and started a movement that didn't turn into a violent mess.
 
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He's right about a two tier justice system.

One reads on an almost daily basis about the ridiculously light sentences handed out for killing cyclists whilst driving a car, from a judiciary system that is biased against our two wheeled brethren.

Edit: oh its a lolscorza thread with a racist angle. Who'd have thought it.
 
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Two tier justice indeed. He was given a ridiculous amount of chances to stop brewing violent hate demonstrations and causing friction between people solely due tot heir ethnic background but he never stopped.

This sort of media writing is hilarious and clearly heavily biased. In their eyes you either righteously support racists or are a terrorist sympathiser. You can clearly see the sort of views their private donors hold.
 
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Anybody care to hazard a guess why Lady Justice is blindfolded? I'll give you a clue, it's got nothing to do with 50 Shades of Grey.

If we're all happy that in modern Britain we are all equal, but some are more equal than others, then fine, I'll go back in my box.
 
No, it's to do with the tenant of Justice should be objective, as any schoolkid knows.

Is it? Of course not. I suspect if you'd started a thread about the objectivity of justice it would have been interesting, instead of you pushing your anti-muslim agenda again which is just tiresome.

They're both pretty awful people, it seems to me.
 
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Scorza: we should all be treated equal and thats why i only post anti-Muslim threads, for...errr... balance?

The guy has had so many warnings and has been treated so lightly in the past. As far as i am concerned, he has been treated so as to not create a matyr and stir up the hate groups he has manage to put together. His treatment can be compared to the treatment of other hate preachers.
 
platypus said:
No, it's to do with the tenant of Justice should be objective, as any schoolkid knows.

Is it? Of course not. I suspect if you'd started a thread about the objectivity of justice it would have been interesting, instead of you pushing your anti-muslim agenda again which is just tiresome.

They're both pretty awful people, it seems to me.
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They are. However scorza does have a point, some people are defended (wrongly) to the ends of the earth by individuals and organisations whereas others (rightly) are shunned and lambasted.

We see it in these forums all the time;

'person x is scum'

'but Tony Blair'

Or

'wow, the government of x are a bunch of evil gits'

'but Amerika'

It's nothing but an attempt to justify or excuse the actions of some by deflection. Those actions are all bad and should be taken that way.
 
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They are. However scorza does have a point, some people are defended (wrongly) to the ends of the earth by individuals and organisations whereas others (rightly) are shunned and lambasted.
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He does have a point, and its a just one.

I just wish he could make it without his usual tiresome rhetoric.
 
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They are. However scorza does have a point, some people are defended (wrongly) to the ends of the earth by individuals and organisations whereas others (rightly) are shunned and lambasted.
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It's not my point, it's a point made by the Gatestone Institute.
 
One assumes that by linking it in the thread topic you where trying to make the same point.

Or are you merely an rss feed now?
 
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He does have a point, and its a just one.

I just wish he could make it without his usual tiresome rhetoric.
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This example is hardly a good measure of the point though. He could have picked many other examples and quoted an article that doesn't ooze an agenda to further the pursuit of justice but it seems that the for some reason it seems that equal justice is only second to the agenda being pushed.

So scorza, care to elaborate on the 'Whats wrong with the 'wtf is going wrong in this country?'

Who are you mad at, the writers of the article? The racist knob who has been going in and out of prison? The hate preachers mentioned in the article?
 
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... which in turn is not a law or science institute of any kind but a fringe right wing lobby group?
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Does that detract from the overall point though?

We're seeing two extreme a-holes treat differently.

Stick a pigs head outside a mosque and it's a hate crime, burn poppies at a soldier's funeral and it's freedom of expression.
 
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