Fun/exciting car - recommend me?

Thanks for all the replies, back to this.. with a quesion.

It's now between z4 3.0 and 350z.

Just wondering how are the auto boxes in z4s? Any benefit of going for that over manual?

I drive a decent amount in traffic so auto is hands down the winner here but how is it as far as fun goes, b-roads for example?

I can't comment on the auto Z4, but I do have a 330 coupe with an auto box and it's great. Plenty of fun as well, albeit not as good as a manual on smaller, country lanes. Also I've owned both a 3.0 Z4 and a 350z. In fact I sold the 350z to get the Z4. I personally just couldn't get on with the Nissan. It felt too "heavy." I also hated the rather oppressive interior. The Z4 on the other hand was fantastic. It felt more agile and was a generally better drive imo. I used mine for long commutes and it wasn't an issue.

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Don't have a pic of the Z4, unfortunately.
 
It's not so much that I want an auto, I'm fine with manual. Its the fact that I don't want to dismiss auto boxes if a good car comes up.

It seems that z4 manual is not that amazing and does not get great reviews whereas the later post 2005 auto is reviewed quite well, sport more of course helps and it allows you to redline the car and have some fun.

So the general idea seems to be to go manual as z4 is a "sports" car. And skip auto completely?
 
It's not so much that I want an auto, I'm fine with manual. Its the fact that I don't want to dismiss auto boxes if a good car comes up.

It seems that z4 manual is not that amazing and does not get great reviews whereas the later post 2005 auto is reviewed quite well, sport more of course helps and it allows you to redline the car and have some fun.

So the general idea seems to be to go manual as z4 is a "sports" car. And skip auto completely?

I thought the Z4's manual was well praised - it certainly was a great box in both the 2.5L and 3.0L that I had. If you do go down the Z4 route, I'd go for a pre-facelift 3.0L if you might ever want to do some engine tuning (more choice as the engine was fitted to so many other BMWs), or try for the post-facelift if you'll keep it stock. Not enough other differences for it to be worth choosing one over the other (unless you hate orange indicators).

Oh, and try to get a car with Xenons. With low cars you need all the light output you can get.
 
Yeah nothing wrong with it imo, same old BMW change that's notchy and a bit awkward cold / around town but works well and is pretty positive when you're trying to drive as intended
 
I thought the Z4's manual was well praised - it certainly was a great box in both the 2.5L and 3.0L that I had. If you do go down the Z4 route, I'd go for a pre-facelift 3.0L if you might ever want to do some engine tuning (more choice as the engine was fitted to so many other BMWs), or try for the post-facelift if you'll keep it stock. Not enough other differences for it to be worth choosing one over the other (unless you hate orange indicators).

Oh, and try to get a car with Xenons. With low cars you need all the light output you can get.

Good to know from someone who had first hand experience! I will be going for a 3.0 either a coupe or convertible, depends how rich I feel but coupe is one of those cars that I've been lusting over since they came out..

I will have to stretch my budget to £9-£10k tho.

I doubt they'll drop much in price, simply for the rarity factor.
 
Having had a Coupe, I'd not do it again. Roadster every day of the week. There's little difference in road/wind noise, and the bulkhead separating from the boot means you only have to worry about cabin squeaks/rattles in the roadster. The Coupe has all sorts of issues with unfathomable squeaks and rattles from the boot area, which even after removing the whole boot interior I still couldn't trace or fix.

Drove me insane. And you lose the best feature and reason you buy a compromised 2 seater sports car - the roof down experience.
 
Drove me insane. And you lose the best feature and reason you buy a compromised 2 seater sports car - the roof down experience.

Basically this. You would be mad to spend more to remove the best feature of this car.

As far as the gear changes go, I put around 20k miles on my Z4 3.0i and it was fine. Bit of a pain in the cold for the first few minutes but after that no issues. You sure it wasn't the Z4M those reviews were talking about ? As the gear changes in mind are much more "temperamental" in the cold and low speeds/traffic then they were in the 3.0i.

Had a Z4 of some sort for 3 and a half years now and don't regret either of them, both could make you smile and the only reason I got rid of the 3.0i for the M was just to own an M car and to spend some of my pointless house deposit.
 
I think if your interested in a Z4, get a Z3 instead. They look better and are becoming a bit of a classic :D
 
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I think if your interested in a Z4, get a Z3 instead. They look better and are becoming a bit of a classic :D

Oh no.. way too old for me and unless it's an M it's going to drive like a boat.

Z4 convertible added to the list haha ;) hoping to buy December/January, we'll see what comes up
 
IMO I wouldn't pass up on an auto if a decent one comes up. It's bulletproof if looked after pretty much like all their decent engines.

You don't need to think about anything and you can still redline it using sport mode if that is what your looking to do and you can also stick them into manual too and push the stick up and down.

Nothing better than putting your foot down and you have 2 less things to worry about (clutch and stick) it means you can focus more on the road and going faster, etc than worry about changing gears. Do formula 1 drivers change up gears for instance using a clutch and stick? I personally wouldn't touch a manual again it's so much more fun and relaxing in an automatic, I find manuals a chore now.
 
Oh no.. way too old for me and unless it's an M it's going to drive like a boat.

Z4 convertible added to the list haha ;) hoping to buy December/January, we'll see what comes up

Should've finished de-chaving mine around then ready to put it up for sale potentially :p
 
What to look out for when going to buy, visually, when driving etc

Also what you've had to replace and general costs etc, although I know this shouldn't be too much.

Maybe what you like/like most about the car? :)

Any reasons not to buy? :p

What to look for now a days would be rust, the biggest problem with them now is rot and it does eat away at the wheel arches. If your buying a hard top check the drains on the sun roof and if its a T-bar check the seals and the cabin damp. The electrical system was very good when i had mine, but they a 80's car so make sure they all work. The wheels are rare so make sure they are in good condition, i personally don't like them, i added after market wheels and stored them in the garage. All the bushes will be worn by now, so check these, polyurethane bushes are a good upgrade, if these have been done.
The engine is fairly bullet proof, but i would make sure you get a decent service history with it. They have a common problem with the alternator, where water sit on the engine cover and falls down the vents onto it, this should be fairly to detect as your grumbling sound coming from the engine bay. Clutch slave cylinder is common to dry. There are some good mods, like a jimi bracket what replaces the throttle bracket and increases throttle response.
Driving them fun!!! They are not the fasted thing around but they handle well and will beat a lot off the line purely down the power to weight ratio. Can be a little uncomfortable on a long drive but who cares when your smiling.
I loved that it was different, i alway would get people stop and talk to me about it. Use to get a thumbs up from people all the time who admired it. Had one person leave a note on it, asking if i would be will to sell it and left me a number. I was 21-23 when i had mine, so back in the early 2000's, i done a lot work to mine and it was mint. General service cost, were cheap back then, don't know so much about now.
Down side, boot space....... and if you take it above the national speed limit on a track of coarse the steering goes light, very light and that can be a little scary. But there is a mod for that, that requires holes being cut.
The MR2 forum was a good place for me back in the day and there is a 2brutal.com where people shoehorn big engine into the MK1, like the MK2 turbo engine engine and a 3L V6 out of a Camry.
Good luck with the search.
 
IMO I wouldn't pass up on an auto if a decent one comes up. It's bulletproof if looked after pretty much like all their decent engines.

You don't need to think about anything and you can still redline it using sport mode if that is what your looking to do and you can also stick them into manual too and push the stick up and down.

Nothing better than putting your foot down and you have 2 less things to worry about (clutch and stick) it means you can focus more on the road and going faster, etc than worry about changing gears. Do formula 1 drivers change up gears for instance using a clutch and stick? I personally wouldn't touch a manual again it's so much more fun and relaxing in an automatic, I find manuals a chore now.


I'd say I need to test drive it tbh and compare both, people seem to have nothing against the auto other than the fact that it is not "true" to the sports car theme.

I'd love auto around london but out of it I'd need to make sure it's fast enough and redline happy tbh!

I doubt I'll miss manual box as much as I think and ideally I'd need to live with an auto to see how I get on with one.

anyone has any real life experience of the facelift auto with paddle shifts?

Should've finished de-chaving mine around then ready to put it up for sale potentially :p


I remember when you got it! :) how does it look now? was yours a pre-facelift?

I can't stand the orange indicators and want xenons so facelift is what I'd be aiming for with spec of -;

sport trim
sport seats/msteering wheel(love the how fat it is)
xenons
 
I remember when you got it! :) how does it look now? was yours a pre-facelift?

I can't stand the orange indicators and want xenons so facelift is what I'd be aiming for with spec of -;

sport trim
sport seats/msteering wheel(love the how fat it is)
xenons

Yep prefacelift sadly, although pretty much all the options (xenons, satnav, sport seats, sport wheel with stereo controls, BT etc)

Standard exhaust going on it in the next week or so and stock sport springs replacing the Eibachs when I get time. Plan is to then get geometry all checked over and see if I feel any different about the car before selling it and getting another S2000 :)

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That said for your budget I'd imagine a facelift is a better bet, mine would be more targetted at someone who's priced out of a facelift but wants all the toys :)
 
The problem with the S2000 is they are fast becoming a collectable, so prices are getting silly now. As a car to actually use they aren't really worth it unless your really in to them and know exactly what your getting. Running costs are very high for what they are when compared to alternatives (top tax bracket, top tier insurance, low 20s mpg, etc).
 
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