Brazilian plane crash

Really horrible :(

I read that the main plane charter they use from Brazil was denied to fly to Bolivia due to some law so they had to use this company to fly.

Also the same plane apparently took the Argentina national team not so long ago
 
1600nm is the max range for a fresh from the factory Avro RJ85 - not a tired long in use example. Radio reports indicate they had requested priority landing , but were placed in a hold because of a Viva Colombia jet declared a fuel emergency.

From all accounts the Lamia jet had the option to land, en route, an refuel but didn't , and whilst holding ran out of fuel. The electrical failure was a symptom of the engines powering down. The RJ85 has a lot of redundancy for its electrical system , but it does need fuel to work.
 
Why is it big news because a football team was on board? 80 people on that flight...

Because it was a group of people who share a commonality, it would be the same impact it it was a whole school class, a rugby team, a large family, a group of employees all from the same company....
 
FrenchTart - I did say RIP to the dead :(

However, I still think that the circumstances are suspicious. Am I not allowed to express such opinions any more?

I have posted separately in the forum content section 1-2 weeks back, and I will say again that I think that freedom of speech on here is being stifled big time. I say this as a member (and customer) of 10+ years.
 
Because it was a group of people who share a commonality, it would be the same impact it it was a whole school class, a rugby team, a large family, a group of employees all from the same company....

That is the problem with public transport accidents generally.

Everybody on board has something in common.

Sometimes it is obvious as in this case, more often less so.

But it is always there which is why "N" people dying in a Plane/Train/Coach/Ship/Etc accident always has more severe socio-economic consequences than "N" people dying at random in say, individual car crashes.

I am sure some bean counter could work out what the upper sensible limit (Risk Vs Benefit) is for the number of people carried in any one air craft (say)

It would be interesting to know what that number would actually be for a random population.

(Of course in individual cases it is heavily dependent on what the commonality actually is. In cases like this the maximum sensible number might well be no more than half a dozen ( IE the team should have been split between multiple flights))
 
FrenchTart - I did say RIP to the dead :(

However, I still think that the circumstances are suspicious. Am I not allowed to express such opinions any more?

I have posted separately in the forum content section 1-2 weeks back, and I will say again that I think that freedom of speech on here is being stifled big time. I say this as a member (and customer) of 10+ years.

I have to agree. It seems mods are steaming in and removing posts lately which are barely controversial. If it carries on this place will become too sterile and decent discussion will be impossible as only certain viewpoints will be allowed.
 
FrenchTart - I did say RIP to the dead :(

However, I still think that the circumstances are suspicious. Am I not allowed to express such opinions any more?

I have posted separately in the forum content section 1-2 weeks back, and I will say again that I think that freedom of speech on here is being stifled big time. I say this as a member (and customer) of 10+ years.

Not the place to push another post complaining about free speech on a privately owned forum. If you want to push your conspiracy theory then register on infowars.com
 
As it initially appeared, the plane ran out of fuel. The pilot seems to have made a fatal error of judgement and decided not to stop to refuel but to carry on :(.
RIP.
 
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