Eating sweet food...

PermaChanged said:
I'm a binger.

Generally speaking I stick to the rule of thumb and only eat things that "grow by themselves" - meat, veg, rice, beans etc. However, I do have the occasional blowout where the gloves are off and I'll eat anything and everything.

I have an enormous appetite and quite regularly disgust people with the amount I eat. One recent binge was the Co-Op £5 frozen meal deal all consumed in one sitting for lunch.

2 Chicken chargrills
14 Chicken dippers
8 Fish fingers
450g bag of Alphabites
500g bag of peas
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I have to draw you.
 
Sweet food is all in the brain. Once you wean yourself off it, and get used to more normal things like fruit at the most, then the cravings for junk disappear quite fast.
 
I eat any amount of crap I want and have never been an ounce over 10.5 stone. Fatties are just jealous they haven't got the uber fast metabolisms us more advanced folk enjoy.
 
Gustov said:
So I generally eat very clean.

Breakfast is porridge. Lunch and dinner is carb + meat + veg. One coffee a day and after that water.

The one thing I do find hard though, is sweet food.

Every day (usually in the evening), I crave sweet food - that can be a sugary yoghurt, chocolate, biscuit, cake, ice cream, jam on toast, rice pudding...the list is endless.

Anyway, my question is, regardless of quantity, do you have something sweet most days of the week?

FYI, I hit the gym 4 times a week and live a healthy lifestyle. I generally get pretty angry at the fatties stuffing their faces all day :p

Another issue is that unless you're drowning yourself in milk and chomping on nuts all day, it's quite hard to reach a 2,500 calorie tally (doesn't help that I'm gluten intolerant). Sometimes I justify the sweet treat as I want the calories ( I'm 185cm / 76kg ) - To clarify, I'm not saying I eat a lot of sweet food but I do get cravings for it most days of the week.

I find it absolutely crazy that as a kid, we had pudding / dessert after every evening meal.
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I put away 3k cals a day on average (less at the moment as I'm not really training much), and when I'm training hard I hit 4k cals a day - it's not hard, you just need to plan it.

AS for sweet. I don't have a sweet tooth so can easily not have sweet things ever. That said, I love baked goods, so anything with pastry, or bread or anything doughy is right up my street. So I don't buy those things else they disappear!

The only sweet tooth I have is for chocolate, but even then it is dark chocolate so not hugely sweet anyway!

If you're going to have something sweet have it before you hit the gym, or immediately afterwards, as you can utilise the insulin to exploit the anabolic effect it has with training (protein synthesis for a start) - I shan't bore you with the science but that's pretty much the 2 times I'd have something sweet.
 
robfosters said:
I eat any amount of crap I want and have never been an ounce over 10.5 stone. Fatties are just jealous they haven't got the uber fast metabolisms us more advanced folk enjoy.
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Are you a runt? Usually 10 stone men are scrawny.
 
V F said:
Mmm Jaffa Cakes. Haven't touched them in years due to so little jelly and the base becoming quite hard than the usual softness from so many years ago. There used to be so much jelly in them. Very little and so dry the last I remember.
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They are exactly the same as they were when I was a kid, 30 odd years ago. :)
 
Odd, I must have been getting dodgy batches then because they've never been as good as 8 - 9 years ago what I've had. Oh and they were a lot bigger and no they weren't the mini jaffa cakes.
 
Freefaller said:
I put away 3k cals a day on average (less at the moment as I'm not really training much), and when I'm training hard I hit 4k cals a day - it's not hard, you just need to plan it.

AS for sweet. I don't have a sweet tooth so can easily not have sweet things ever. That said, I love baked goods, so anything with pastry, or bread or anything doughy is right up my street. So I don't buy those things else they disappear!

The only sweet tooth I have is for chocolate, but even then it is dark chocolate so not hugely sweet anyway!

If you're going to have something sweet have it before you hit the gym, or immediately afterwards, as you can utilise the insulin to exploit the anabolic effect it has with training (protein synthesis for a start) - I shan't bore you with the science but that's pretty much the 2 times I'd have something sweet.
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Spiking insulin around training times is going to have a miniscule/zero effect on Protein uptake or Protein synthesis, you have to be taking large amounts of Insulin exogenously for it to make a difference in that regard. The only thing that might make some difference is having a decent serving of Protein at least 4-6 hours after training, and even then it's not nearly as important as your overall diet
 
robfosters said:
I eat any amount of crap I want and have never been an ounce over 10.5 stone. Fatties are just jealous they haven't got the uber fast metabolisms us more advanced folk enjoy.
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Ditto 6ft 3 and 80kgs. I eat like a pig. Downed a box of drum stick chewers followed by a pack of tesco finest cookies the next day with a ham and cheese baguette. Also had a maccy d's as well. We eat fresh though during the week and everything is home made from lasagne to cottage pie. I even make my own fudge. Main thing for me though is our border collie which gets walked twice a day for 1 hour plus a piece. If it wasn't for her I would be a fat slob :p.

Cannot wait to get home from work today and raid the cupboards for junk as I know for a fact the missus has done the shopping :D
 
Roar87 said:
Spiking insulin around training times is going to have a miniscule/zero effect on Protein uptake or Protein synthesis, you have to be taking large amounts of Insulin exogenously for it to make a difference in that regard. The only thing that might make some difference is having a decent serving of Protein at least 4-6 hours after training, and even then it's not nearly as important as your overall diet
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Well, it does help for natural trainers (even if only marginally) - you might as well put your body in the most anabolic state it can be in.

I personally like carb cycling as when I was training to a highly competitive level (club-level rugby) the conditioning and endurance I got from that was hugely helpful. Then as I started to go down the powerlifting route, I found that keeping a decent carb cycle going helped improve insulin sensitivity which again translated in decent metabolic improvements. Albeit supplementing with leuicine (protein synthesis), creatine (ATP output) - I took part in an MSc study that Loughborough University were doing, and there were marginal but still recordable improvements.

However, yes, you are 100% correct, for most laypersons, and average joe gym trainers, it basically makes sod all difference. And exogenous insulin is so dangerous and I don't suggest anyone go down that route really.
 
I was the high end of 13 stone at one point and felt underweight, scrawny, weak and lacking energy - far from light and bouncy!

Sitting at 16 stone now and feeling far far better for it at a height of 6ft 3/4
 
Gustov said:
10 stone :eek:

I'm 12 stone (albeit 6 ft1) and feel underweight still.
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That's a normal healthy weight for someone your height. 13.5 stones and you would be classed as being overweight.

V F said:
Mmm Jaffa Cakes. Haven't touched them in years due to so little jelly and the base becoming quite hard than the usual softness from so many years ago. There used to be so much jelly in them. Very little and so dry the last I remember.
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If you're going to eat **** sweet treats, there are a lot worse things than Jaffa Cakes.

I've hardly touched sweet stuff over the last few months and have dropped around 12lbs in weight. This is my treat. :)
 
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