Is a 1080 really worth £200 more than a 1070?

[r7slayer]

Not true.

Irrespective of the exchange rate, Nvidia have shifted their prices up for the Pascal cards.

Even If sterling hadn't crashed you would have still been paying well over £500 for a 1080.

Yep exactly they are more expensive due to the founders cards.

1080 founders edition $699

1070 Founders edition $449

980 on release $550

The AIB were supposed to be $379 for 1070 and $599 for 1080

which is £360 with tax for 1070 and £568 for 1080 with tax

Both cards are £20 more for the cheapest version with others being even more expensive. So why is this? because this is worked out with our current interest rates. The 980 with the current interest rates would have been £520 with tax but i'm sure it was cheaper when the pound was better. £499 or something? If people really look at it and work it out you would realised your getting fleeced by at least £50

 

[DONOHUE07]

Prices of high end NVIDIA gpus are ridiculous because AMD have nothing to offer as of yet, if you have waited this long I personally would hold out just a little long to see what AMD's vega is like, that's what I'm doing.

I read on WCCFTECH (I know, I know..) that performance is rumoured to be between the 1070 and 1080,if the price is sub £400 that would be the sweet spot for high end GPUs

 

[varkanoid]

Last time round I would have said a 980ti was good for games over a 980 but this time round unless you want to get an uber 4k machine you dont need a 1080ti.

 

[llamadal]

I doubt it... we didn't see a drop in the 980 when the 980Ti came out, and Nvidia have since gone absolutely bonkers with pricing (coupled with Brexit and £ tanking against $), so I thoroughly expect the same scenario, if not worse. The 1080Ti is, I predict, all but certain to come in around the £800-900 mark, leaving 1080 prices unaffected, and it wouldn't surprise me if some AIB cards break the £1K barrier, which is sheer and utter madness... but this is the world we now live in. Oh, and people will still pay no matter what, that much IS guaranteed! They'll moan and cry, but just watch the owners thread steadily grow.

Are you high? It knocked quite a bit off.

If you don't like the pricing, buy something else.

 

[wedrum]

No

 

[Nasher]

Prices are only representative of the drop in sterling, hardware per-se seems to have shot up since Brexit weakened the pound. Maybe a coincidence, I recall looking at complete builds earlier in the year and versus now, same PC same site is circa £300 more.

It's a bit like how oil price rockets when someone farts in the middle east, but stays the same when everyone is friends again. The pound has been slowly going back up, yet prices have not moved back down :/

Funny how the currency drop only seem to be effecting Nvidia and Intel prices as well...

 

[Griffildur]

If you need the extra power then it's worth paying it.

The waiting game hasn't really worked with this generation. What I would suggest is try and get a deal, 1070 or 1080, if you can grab a discount and a game code then don't wait, just do it. Prices have gone up and even if you wait there's no guarantee anything good will come out of it.

I wouldn't consider a 480 as it's not in the same league as the 1070 / 1080 and I 'd say ignore multiple cards as well.

It's a lot better to have a more powerful one card solution then sli or cf.

 

[Seanspeed]

Looking at the cheapest respective 1070 and 1080's on OC/UK's site there's - give or take - £200 difference between the cheapest of each respective range which equates to roughly 40% difference in price for at best a 30% difference in performance.

This is never how things work at the higher end, and this goes for many/most product types.

Anyways, if the performance increase of the GTX1080 isn't worth it to you, then it's not worth it to you. You dont need other people to tell you you are right or wrong over something that is an individual valuation.

 

[Caracus2k]

The 1080 is worth the extra money if you need the extra power to push a higher res display at settings the 1070 will start to struggle with. Its that simple.... it doesn't linearly offer £200 more performance directly scaled from 1070 performance because that's not how the world works. In pretty much any field increased performance/price at the top end does not scale in a linear fashion.

No. And the 1070 isn't worth it's current price either. It should at least be south of the £400 mark, not north of it. Especially considering what 980ts were selling for not too long ago.

Your comparing EOL clearance prices to regular retail prices! 980Ti's were pretty pricy themselves till Pascal landed!

There currently at least 13 models of 1070's for sale on OCuk for less than £400 as well!

I refused to upgrade to this generations gpus from nvidia, i didn't want to encourage their lies and price rises.

How very noble of you and as a sign of your virtue you get to choose from AMD's current GPU catalogue which includes top end cards that can only compete with NVidia's last gen cards...

 

[MooMoo444]

Patience is a virtue...

As much as we can hope, while AMD develop something to compete with the 10 series, Nvidia are well into development on the 11 series.

It's just not as simple as waiting. AMD need to ramp it up.

 

[beany_bot]

As much as we can hope, while AMD develop something to compete with the 10 series, Nvidia are well into development on the 11 series.

It's just not as simple as waiting. AMD need to ramp it up.

maybe, maybe not.

If Nvidia keep going at their current trend we will be looking at £700 for an 1180 with marginal gains on the 1080.
While (potentially) Vega have beaten out the 1080 for much less money. Who knows.

 

[Caracus2k]

maybe, maybe not.

If Nvidia keep going at their current trend we will be looking at £700 for an 1180 with marginal gains on the 1080.
While (potentially) Vega have beaten out the 1080 for much less money. Who knows.

You may or may not be right on the price but 'marginal gains' is pretty unlikely.

Where not dealing with CPU's here! Successive generations of Nvidia GPU's have shown quite large performance increases and there's not much reason to see that changing soon. We probably won't see the sort of performance boost we saw from the 980 - 1080 due to there being both a new smaller process and new design used in one jump but id still expect the '1180' to offer a fair chunk more performance

 

[Legend]

Are you high? It knocked quite a bit off.

If you don't like the pricing, buy something else.

It didn't, not for ages. I remember buying a 980 not long after they first came out, and they stuck AROUND the same price for ages, as I was considering SLI for the longest time, thinking they would drop, but they never really did. Of course, every card drops eventually, but the suggestion above was that the 1080Ti release will see a significant drop in the 1080 price. I think this is incredibly unlikely. Whether you or I like the pricing is not the issue... it just is what it is, and if you want the most powerful card, you CAN'T buy anything else lol! Although we'll see what VEGA brings to the table.

 

[beany_bot]

You may or may not be right on the price but 'marginal gains' is pretty unlikely.

Where not dealing with CPU's here! Successive generations of Nvidia GPU's have shown quite large performance increases and there's not much reason to see that changing soon. We probably won't see the sort of performance boost we saw from the 980 - 1080 due to there being both a new smaller process and new design used in one jump but id still expect the '1180' to offer a fair chunk more performance

Ahhh but is that really true?

Maxwell overclocked rather well. Pascal not so much.

Pascal cards seem to be "overclocked" out of the box with no room to spare. When you compare a maxed overclocked 980 to a max overclocked 1080. The gains are less impressive than the raw figures suggest.

 

[ShakeNBake]

the difference depends on whether you have a 4k monitor or not.

1080 will give you that vital extra fps at 4k which can make the difference between a game running smoothly or not.

 

[Caracus2k]

I had a 980 (actually had two of them) I have a 1080 overclocked or otherwise it's a big difference.

980's topped out a little above 1500Mhz of 1080 just over 2100Mhz add in more cores (2048 cuda cores vs 2560) and double the memory and its a BIG upgrade

 

[beany_bot]

I had a 980 (actually had two of them) I have a 1080 overclocked or otherwise it's a big difference.

980's topped out a little above 1500Mhz of 1080 just over 2100Mhz add in more cores and double the memory and its a BIG upgrade

Yeah thats true.

 

[Griffildur]

I would also caution the OP into putting too much stock on what people on these forums say.

What others believe and what others do is up to them. The biggest question you need to ask yourself is it worth it to you? The random ramblings of someone don't hold any value.

There are a lot of benchmarks, a lot of comparisons, these cards have been out for half a year so it is quite easy to come to a conclusion, depending on what screen you have, what games you play, how long you're going to keep the card for etc.

These are the things that matter. There is too much bias on this forum to pay too much attention to it.

So I'd say first decide which card you want, then decide which manufacturer you want as that's another story in itself. Do research though as certain manufacturers like EVGA and Gigabyte had their fair share of issues.

 

[Lokken86]

I would also caution the OP into putting too much stock on what people on these forums say.

What others believe and what others do is up to them. The biggest question you need to ask yourself is it worth it to you? The random ramblings of someone don't hold any value.

There are a lot of benchmarks, a lot of comparisons, these cards have been out for half a year so it is quite easy to come to a conclusion, depending on what screen you have, what games you play, how long you're going to keep the card for etc.

These are the things that matter. There is too much bias on this forum to pay too much attention to it.

So I'd say first decide which card you want, then decide which manufacturer you want as that's another story in itself. Do research though as certain manufacturers like EVGA and Gigabyte had their fair share of issues.

+1. Took the words out my mouth.

 

[Spudgun]

I think the perception of whether it is worth it comes down to the resolution you want to play at. If you want 1080p then it is absolutely not worth the extra money over the 1070. If you want to play at 1440p then it is more debatable with plenty of pros and cons to weigh up. If you want 4k then it is most certainly worth it.