All police to have degrees!

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Not sure whether to laugh at this or recoil in horror at the stupidity of this country. It's not that I think degrees are worthless, but they're hardly the sole source of knowledge. What is the reasoning behind this? Is it just a money-maker for Sociology professors? Or is it an attempt to push even more cut-price police (sorry, I mean Police Community Support officers).

Seems very silly to me.

"The nature of police work is getting quite complex and it is quite contentious, and the public expectation is that you'll be patrolling in my street and, by the way, you'll be patrolling online."
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Yes, because (a) you really need a degree to go online and (b) I love the idea of police patrolling people's web usage. Presumably that's the end goal of Therea May's Snooper's Charter - that police should be able to just dip into your web traffic and see what you're up to. "Excuse me, would you mind disabling your VPN for a moment so I can search your browsing for drugs purchases / porn / banned news sites? Thank you for your assistance." "No? Then I'm afraid I'm going to have to arrest you for obstructing a police officer..."

Maybe they're worried about police officers joining up without thirty-thousand pounds of debt! Hard to make sure someone puts up with your crap or keeps their mouth shut about something if they're not worried about how they'll pay their epic student loans.
 
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I think this is a little silly, to be honest.

While there are some places in the police force that do require a degree, I can also see the need for officers without.

12 universities to offer the course, not exactly what you want from your local bobby. Whilst a lot of the training is roughly the same, it can't beat the hands on experience and knowledge from your local area..
 
The Police are expected to carry out a large amount of paperwork. I expect half of the force is not capable of stringing words together correctly. Hence needing an education.

Although, wouldn't college or A level be fine?
 
Why don't they just do it like the military. Have a set requirement, then have an exam. If you pass the exam, but fall short of the requirements, based upon your scoring of the test you can still progress through to interview stages.
 
I was under the impression policing was one of those careers where education isn't really relevant compared to experience.

definitely in areas such as forensics there's a level of scientific methodology, but I don't think university is going to be able to measure a good copper in the same way it cant measure a good soldier.
 
neil_g said:
lul wut?

current requirement is:

"there is no formal educational requirement, but you will have to pass written tests"
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"passing written test" does not equate to having excellent literary skills. Isn't it a well known fact that police officers are chosen based on their compliancy and even sometimes low IQ and ability to follow orders blindly without question or morality?


I still remember when I explained drug laws to a police officer once, he was almost in tears when I helped him understand what the law was really for, and how it was simply impossible for it to work. Most officers even today are heavily doctored. They get fed a lot of BS which they're not allowed to question.

This is just a charade to fill the police force with more compliant officers who don't have a "real" clue and will follow orders blindly.

It needs to be done with all the BS laws they're imposing these days like trying to make it illegal to watch a woman squirting, etc. They need fully compliant officers who don't ask questions. Making them do a special "degree" just means they can doctor the police force to the ideals required for governmental goals.

You can bet part of this new degree will be how watching a woman squirting is ruining humanity, raising crime, and more BS, etc.
 
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At school, all the naughty kids or ones who just couldn't be bothered seemed to have the textbook response of 'I don't care about any of this anyway, I'm gonna join the police/army'.

Now, I never kept up with any of these people after school days, but if they've made it in to the police or army then it's pretty worrying.

Some sort of formal qualification to sieve said people out wouldn't be a bad thing. If you can't be bothered then a career in police should not be viewed as some sort of fall back option due to lack of barriers to entry. It should be the other way round.

E.g you want to be a Solicitor? You have to demonstrate 3 years of commitment completing a rigorous degree, followed by a 2 year training contract and even then you have no guarantees. You've spent 50k and put in countless hours of work and your life to prove you want that job. However you can be excelled in to sheer responsibility of a police officer (which is significant) simply by leaving school and meeting the very loose criteria and passing written tests? Yeah not everyone gets through but the fact is almost everyone can take a crack at the application. (Now I'm not saying you should have to do some 5 year course or spend 50k, it was an example of what it takes to get in to other important professions - and no the majority of solicitors don't earn big bucks either, I reckon police officers earn more than high street solicitors).
 
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It is silly but they are doing this to raise the barrier for entry and reduce the numbers, like with many organizations. They know unemployment is still high and many want full time work.

Just like with with some call centre jobs now want a person to be educated to a degree level........just to sit and answer the phones all day :confused:
 
TS7 said:
At school, all the naughty kids or ones who just couldn't be bothered seemed to have the textbook response of 'I don't care about any of this anyway, I'm gonna join the police/army'.

Now, I never kept up with any of these people after school days, but if they've made it in to the police or army then it's pretty worrying.

Some sort of formal qualification to sieve said people out wouldn't be a bad thing. If you can't be bothered then a career in police should not be viewed as some sort of fall back option due to lack of barriers to entry. It should be the other way round.
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The military has pre-entry exams, and then further training when joined up. It's hardly worrying, it's pretty much these people the ARMY are looking for.
 
Uther said:
Nurses need one too don't they? It's all becoming a bit of a joke.
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They need a degree in nursing, but I think there are new levels of nurse being introduced that don't. I hope the police will require a degree in policing and not a random degree.
Andi.
 
This kinda highlights the level of bureaucracy in law enforcement at the moment. You need a degree just to understand the red tape.
 
andicole0 said:
I hope the police will require a degree in policing and not a random degree.
Andi.
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:confused: Isn't that a bad thing?

I'd want down to earth and "real" police officers, not ones who have been completely brainwashed for 3 years by the same establishment who are trying to criminalise female ejaculation!
 
They're just limiting who they can hire really, there's nothing so complex that someone with A levels can't do the job.
 
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