HMP Birmingham

A lot of smoke in cells due to fires, they need to get it under control fast.

This is what happens when you lock up people for 23 hours and treat them like animals.

Compared to the great majority of the worlds prison systems ours are superb from a prisoner point of view. The amount of rights they have makes prison life very easy even with overcrowding.
No prisoners are treated like animals in this country.
 
A lot of smoke in cells due to fires, they need to get it under control fast.

This is what happens when you lock up people for 23 hours and treat them like animals.

I don't know how you treat animals but mine are well fed up and looked after. :p

It's prison - they should be locked up because they are a high risk to the public and of escaping. That's like giving a paedophile a house next to a school....
 
Government Tornado troops are trying to regain control, but I'm hearing that the prisoners are throwing buckets of paint at them so they can't see through their helmets.

They aren't Govt. troops simply prison tornado squads from all over the country who do regular training in their parent prison and can be called upon at any time.Just regular prison staff who are prepared to do a bit more for nothing extra.

It's more likely you would have **** and p**s thrown at you than paint unless there was some work going on.
 
They're locked up 24/7. Did you even bother reading the article posted?

There may be the odd day when exercise is cancelled otherwise even at a local prison without many workshops they are never banged up all day.
They have to be fed and go to health care, visits etc.
 
They're locked up 24/7. Did you even bother reading the article posted?

I missed it. :) They are locked up 24hrs most times. That's not right - 1hr as per the govt.

Doesn't excuse a riot but if that's the case prisons should be inspected.... somebody at the govt isn't telling G4S how crap they are.
 
I missed it. :) They are locked up 24hrs most times. That's not right - 1hr as per the govt.

Doesn't excuse a riot but if that's the case prisons should be inspected.... somebody at the govt isn't telling G4S how crap they are.

Once again, they aren't locked up without exercise except in emergencies, don't take quotes from cons as gospel.
 
I missed it. :) They are locked up 24hrs most times. That's not right - 1hr as per the govt.

Doesn't excuse a riot but if that's the case prisons should be inspected.... somebody at the govt isn't telling G4S how crap they are.

Or everyone is skimming off the top and hoping against hope poo doesn't hit the fan. I thought the whole point with G4S was to put things out of sight and out of mind because the private sector is meant to be ultra efficient? More headache than they're worth, from the looks of it. This is not the first story with them as key protagonists in utter shambles.
 
I don't know how you treat animals but mine are well fed up and looked after. :p

It's prison - they should be locked up because they are a high risk to the public and of escaping. That's like giving a paedophile a house next to a school....

They are locked up in prison as punishment. Being detained in the cell for 23 hours a day is not there punishment.
 
I agree with helpimcrap I'm afraid. Commit the crime, do the time. It's your prerogative.

Shouldn't commit crime then should they?

Yeah, you guys are living in some fantasy world if you think it's as cut and dry as that. Regardless, as someone previously stated - their time is in prison, that does not mean you should be treated less of a human.
 
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if you lock your dog up for 23 hours a day in a cell even he will go crazy.

in what prison is this, my best friend in a prison officer and i have never heard him talk of 23 hour lock up. The worst seem to be seg which from what i gather is pedo's or high risk (owes drug money etc).

Most have MAX 17 hour lock up with TV and consoles with extra "activity" like cooking/washing etc.
 
So you think they're all innocent lovely people? I'd say you're the one in la la land.

No, they're not the hardcore murderers, rapists, paedophiles usually housed in category a prisons. Of course those prisons would never be understaffed. You also don't know their individual circumstances, sure they committed a crime - but again that does not mean they should no have basic needs, which are obviously not be fulfilled.

in what prison is this, my best friend in a prison officer and i have never heard him talk of 23 hour lock up. The worst seem to be seg which from what i gather is pedo's or high risk (owes drug money etc).

Most have MAX 17 hour lock up with TV and consoles with extra "activity" like cooking/washing etc.

The one being the subject, again a common theme with people in this thread. Don't even bother clicking on the link.
 
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