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I would just like to know what ISIS actually want.

They want the restoration of the lost caliphate. Any non Muslim is an infidel and under a fundamentalist interpretation of the Quran all infidels should be killed or converted. ISIS are psychopaths, I've seen videos online of them murdering people and the cruelty and barbarity is stomach churning. The Nazis were bad but ISIS are much worse. They've taken evil to a whole new level. Scum.
 
Shame we can't just pull a few pages out. Though it's like my mum. Bible says not to eat pork so she wont touch it. Her loss.

They're the literal word of God. Certainly couldn't do that!

And that's the problem. To be a true muslin you take it as the true word and it cannot be denied. If you do pick and choose you're denying gods word...so why bother to believe at all?
 
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No they weren't. And besides, even if they were I reckon nine dead and scores injured trumps three injured.

http://m.independent.ie/world-news/...spected-terror-attack-in-zurich-35306946.html

Either you live under a rock or you are just plain ignorant.

And sure if deaths are a point scoring argument for you then go right ahead because over the past decade a **** load more Muslims have died at the hands of our respective govts. But hey don't let facts get in your way of having your ignorance justified.
 
http://m.independent.ie/world-news/...spected-terror-attack-in-zurich-35306946.html

Either you live under a rock or you are just plain ignorant.

And sure if deaths are a point scoring argument for you then go right ahead because over the past decade a **** load more Muslims have died at the hands of our respective govts. But hey don't let facts get in your way of having your ignorance justified.

Actually...most died at the hands of their peace loving brethren.
 
Not at all.

Just amazed at your simplistic squirrel brained 'argument'. Anyone who doesn't think as you do is apparently a 'bigot'.

That's fine with the mods on here though. Apparently.

Apparently I have hit a nerve then.

As for my accusation?? Oh there are plenty of bigots in here, just by looking at members posts and posting history.

Like I said I've been around here for a very long time and have seen some of the stupid downright ignorant crap people come up with. There was a time I'd try and explain but meh they don't listen unless it's something they want to hear. Like all Muslims are terrorists etc etc even though out of 1.6billion Muslims, about a few thousand are terrorists. But if it doesn't fit your narrative then why bother listening to fact.

Actually...most died at the hands of their peace loving brethren.

Actually no you are wrong but as I said in my above post, it doesn't fit your narrative so you keep on blindly listening to what you want to believe in.
 
Apparently I have hit a nerve then.

As for my accusation?? Oh there are plenty of bigots in here, just by looking at members posts and posting history.

Like I said I've been around here for a very long time and have seen some of the stupid downright ignorant crap people come up with. There was a time I'd try and explain but meh they don't listen unless it's something they want to hear. Like all Muslims are terrorists etc etc even though out of 1.6billion Muslims, about a few thousand are terrorists. But if it doesn't fit your narrative then why bother listening to fact.

Again, ISIS alone number in the tens of thousands. Or at least did. I believe I once ran totals on here of the various terrorist groups such as boko harem, Al qaeda, etc. And the numbers came to hundreds of thousands.

Actually no you are wrong but as I said in my above post, it doesn't fit your narrative so you keep on blindly listening to what you want to believe in.

I'm wrong? Stats please.
 
Again, ISIS alone number in the tens of thousands. Or at least did. I believe I once ran totals on here of the various terrorist groups such as boko harem, Al qaeda, etc. And the numbers came to hundreds of thousands.

Yeah, apparently 80,000-100,00 ISIS fighter in Syria and Iraq.

Apparently I have hit a nerve then.

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You can keep using this all night.

No, you have not hit a nerve. Carry on thinking that if it makes you feel better though.

about a few thousand are terrorists

You're talking nonsense. Or are you one of those who classes ISIS as some kind of freedom fighters?
 
No, we don't get the same response with people going, 'omg this is why Christianity should be banned'/'lol religion of peace lol', etc. People don't link the crazy element (tiny minority) with the majority as people do with Islam.

Muslims currently murder ~30,000 people a year as part of a sustained global campaign to destroy civilisation and impose Islam on everyone in the world through fear and death (as well as politics, which is probably more effective overall but the two methods affect each other).

There is no such Christian campaign. Christianity results in a few Christians who murder a few people, but there's nothing organised. It's not a large scale threat. Unlike Islam.

Your comparison fails. You may as well compare norovirus with ebola. After all, they're both viruses and they both kill people, so that makes them "comparable".
 
Again, ISIS alone number in the tens of thousands. Or at least did. I believe I once ran totals on here of the various terrorist groups such as boko harem, Al qaeda, etc. And the numbers came to hundreds of thousands.

You realise that as a percentage of Muslims worldwide, even 160,000 would only be 0.01%
 
You realise that as a percentage of Muslims worldwide, even 160,000 would only be 0.01%

That's just one group. There are dozens.

Put it another way; 75% of all terrorism related deaths last year were by just 4 organisations

ISIS
Al qaeda
Taliban
Boko harem

Tell me.. what have those 4 got in common?
 
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Agreed and to be inclusive you have to engage with them. Hence why moderate Muslims are the best people to engage as they are more amenable to Western culture. Trying to engage with ISIS is pointless, they won't listen they'll just kill you.

Exactly, and this lack of differentiation is why I find so many peoples opinions on this site abhorrent. Just because someone "follows" the same ideology doesn't mean they are remotely the same, hence my comment earlier about the "right".
 
I would just like to know what ISIS actually want (assuming this has ties to them). I wonder if they even care that they're making life hell for their fellow rational Muslim brothers/sisters who are happy in the western world.

1) Members of IS wouldn't regard those Muslims as their brothers and sisters. They'd be more likely to see them as heretics, i.e. even worse than unbelievers.

2) IS et alia benefit from Muslims suffering because that's extremely useful for recruitment.
 
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