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There was no racism. Just stone cold truths.

Liberal handbook, lesson 5

If anyone posts/discusses something you don't like, use words like "Racist", "Islamaphobe" or "Bigot" to try and shut them down.

I consider myself a liberal, but i'm not dumb enough to label people with random words in order to censor peoples opinions or derail their points.
 
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I'll put my deletion down to an error then as I was asking an honest question to a member in the know, no hard feelings.
 
Deleted posts contained at least one of the following,


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Use of phrases or words that contravene the rules.


I simply used "No." as a reason for deletion because it would have taken me half the night to compose a particular reason for deletion due to the reams of posts that needed removing.

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I think you need to delete GD :D
 
It's hard when you can't see the posts that have been deleted to open a discussion about their content.

Only the original poster should need to discuss.

There would be no point in having rules on whats not allowed if they were left there. What would you do, put a mod line at the bottom, "this post is against the rules, but left behind so that it can fuel more posts that break the rules"? ;)
 
It's hard when you can't see the posts that have been deleted to open a discussion about their content.
Only the original poster should need to discuss.

There would be no point in having rules on whats not allowed if they were left there. What would you do, put a mod line at the bottom, "this post is against the rules, but left behind so that it can fuel more posts that break the rules"? ;)

Pretty much this, although if a post that you read has been deleted, and you don't know why (or don't agree), then you are still welcome to open a thread to discuss it (i.e. if you didn't see it originally - then it shouldn't really matter to you).
 
I know that it would be especially hard for us to bear if someone who had asked for refuge and asylum turned out to have done this. It would be particularly sickening for the many Germans who daily work to help refugees and for those who really do need our shelter and are working to integrate into society.

Angela Merkel, this morning.

You couldn't make it up. :D :D :D
 
I think integration is mostly a myth, people tend to prefer hanging out with people who think like them, speak their language and share their values. Sure it's useful to learn another language if you move to a country or visit regularly, but it's rare to see someone integrate into their hosts countries culture, it takes generations for that to begin to happen.
 
Well the situation in the middle east has broadly improved versus previous decades, so they are getting something right. Many of the dictatorships that dominated the cold war era are being replaced be democracies. Syria and Libya are obviously examples of where it has turned bloody, but those conflicts will come to a close at some point I suspect.

My apologies for taking a while to respond.

Off topic sorry.

Are things better in the Middle East today compared to the days of stable dictatorships? If you are a Coptic, a Druze an Alawite, Sufi, Yazidi, Zoroastrian etc maybe not so. Without a doubt thinking that we could replace dictatorships with democracies simply by giving the people the vote was a massively naive conceit of the recent generation of politicians. In the UK universal suffrage was the last step of democracy not the first. We thought we could impose that final outcome without changing the culture to underpin it and all we have done is unleash chaos.
 
I think integration is mostly a myth, people tend to prefer hanging out with people who think like them, speak their language and share their values. Sure it's useful to learn another language if you move to a country or visit regularly, but it's rare to see someone integrate into their hosts countries culture, it takes generations for that to begin to happen.

True enough, but it all needs start, thats the tricky bit.

The immigrants coming over have been indoctrinated since birth, their off spring will face the same fate but a little less and the cycle repeats. So the only solution is a controlled breeding program done over the next 100 years. Somehow i do not think that will go down well at all.

So life goes on and its not going to be solved by politics until indoctrination of the young is /slowed/prevented.

It will never end until we can travel to new planets and kick all the religious nutters off to live on there own worlds. Well those that cant get along together at the very least.

lucky for me I am Jedi :P
 
As for unprovoked attacks... Who knows, cant blame it on Islam though... The KKK were extreme Protestants and would have no issue killing Catholics but we dont rally around to condemn all Christians right?

If the KKK had been driving lorries into people in France and Germany conducting mass shootings in Paris etc... I think you'd find rather a lot of people getting upset and questioning why an American hate group is attacking us. But they aren't and it doesn't make much sense that they would. They're not very comparable.

You seem to be confusing the idea that there is a problem within Islam with the condemnation of all Muslims.
 
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But if you know many muslims they will tell you its spoken about in plenty of countries as if it happened yesterday

Revenge is best served cold, its so cold for us its all but forgotten about, but for plenty around the globe its not, its not forgotten and not forgiven.

That's part of the problem through isn't it? We're dealing with people that can't seem to move with the times, they can't move on from something that happen 500 years ago and cannot reform their religion because their own religion bans them from reforming it. They will forever be stuck in the 5th century mind.
 
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