Poll: Investigatory Powers Bill or "Snoopers' Charter" has been approved

Are you happy with the investigatory powers bill being passed?

  • Yes, I fully agree with it.

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Yes, but I am uncomfortable with certain aspects of it.

    Votes: 31 5.5%

  • I am undecided.

    Votes: 27 4.8%

  • No, but I do agree with parts of it.

    Votes: 103 18.2%

  • No, I fully disagree with it.

    Votes: 391 69.1%
  • Total voters
    566
Exactly why all the security guys at my place are having kittens over this whole affair.

Let's hope Liberty manage to overturn this in court.
 
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neil_g said:
And our government expects ISPs to keep our browsing history safe for a year?

'One billion' affected by Yahoo hack [..]
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Of course they don't expect the data to be secure. It would be impossible for anyone to be that ignorant unless they lived in a bunker without any contact with the outside world. The government doesn't care who has access to data on everyone else as long as they do. They're exempt from the law, so they're not at risk. Why would they care what happens to everyone else?
 
Couldn't the IPA be challenged under the proposed EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) once it comes into force?
 
I had a thought about this the other day.

Besides using a VPN, surely the only way to "verify" your device will be to log what MAC address is used in the communication, surely? After all, todays' home wireless networks could easily have 6,7 different devices using them?

So, along with random URL poisoning browser add-ins to obfuscate search traffic, would it not also be worth having a MAC address spoofer which generates a random MAC each time your device boots, or every hour? :D
 
Mynight said:
Can you change the MAC on a modem? I thought that was how they identified you as a customer :confused:.
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I doubt it, but surely they'd need to be able to identify which device did the 'communication' as they put it, otherwise all they have is a log of sites visited, but they dont know which adult, or child, or visitor accessed said site - making logs kinda worthless?

I mean, if I host a LAN party, Bob and Steve probably won't go on anything dodgy, but if Iqbal checks up on an Arabic forum, that's gonna set flags off! :D
 
StriderX said:
Finally a good usage of the bill.

Social Media is a plague.
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And yet the government is now mandating that we give the likes of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Imgur, etc, all our personal data in order to prove who we are and access it - even if you're not looking for porn, but just because there may be someone else on the service who is.

Personally, I don't think it's the government's place to decide which adults gets to see acts that are perfectly legal to perform in your own bedroom, but it seems they are so desperately interested in who does what to whom with which set of genitals.
 
I'm really pleased to see the right decision made by the ECJ. My fear is, that - public opinion on the EU being what it is - people may view this as "yet another case of foreigners telling us what to do", as opposed to seeing it for what it is, us being protected from our own Government!

I hope the British media step up and don't continue to downplay this/twist it towards some Brexit agenda.
 
Tefal said:
that is only for the storing of calls and messages fro ma previous law.

completely unrelated to the snoopers cartter keeping ip logs
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Correct, but the ruling states communications data can only be retained if it was used to fight serious crime, which makes it easier for someone to legally challenge bulk collection as a precedent of sorts exists.

Fingers crossed that Europe can save us from our own government.
 
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