Alexander Blackman

deuse said:
It has everything to do with it. Making an army stick to old rules when the enemy isn't is just plain silly.
It's like having a off side rule for one team but not the other.



So I take it you can't\won't answer me? Do you need the question posted again?
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Fine lets let our soldiers have no rules of engagement at all. Lets let them go off raping women and children as well while we are at it too!

In fact lets expand that and let our Police do the same. By your standards we don't need rules or morals so why not?

The entire point of western democracy and military is that we hold ourselves by higher moral standards than terrorists and by doing some can look to bring a more democratic way of life to a country (the debate about whether this is actually happening is a whole different issue).

No one debates these things dont happen in war. The difference between us and terrorists is that we have a stronger moral ethic and uphold the rule of law (international and domestic).
By not having these you lose any moral claim to be doing the right thing.
 
deuse said:
It has everything to do with it. Making an army stick to old rules when the enemy isn't is just plain silly.
It's like having a off side rule for one team but not the other.



So I take it you can't\won't answer me? Do you need the question posted again?
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Then your argument is that we shouldn't have to follow the Geneva Convention, you're having a completely different debate to everyone else. At the moment the Geneva Convention is law, Blackman broke that law, and now he's in prison, under our existing justice system it is right that he's in prison.

In my opinion I wouldn't want a situation created where it's okay for a soldier to beat and then shoot an unarmed combatant, therefore I wouldn't support the repealing of the Geneva Convention.
 
On the other hand small gorilla forces never follow law so why should we? I can see both points but I guess if we let this slide then it'll be a downward spiral.
 
Doogles said:
On the other hand small gorilla forces never follow law so why should we? I can see both points but I guess if we let this slide then it'll be a downward spiral.
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Precisely. Is the trade of killing a unarmed dying man for a message tot he whole army that you can choose to follow some laws, worth it?

Of course not. You would have to be an idiot to think so. This discussion was never about whether he should have been allowed to kill the guy but whether the law should be lenient and turn a blind eye to someone who knowingly broke it.

I personally think treating a man in those situations is a waste of resources but that is not my choice and neither is it what we are discussing.
 
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This has nothing to do on whether you agree with the laws or not.
That's a whole other discussion that needs to be had separately if you wish but right now those laws apply, he broke them and he's been punished accordingly there's nothing to argue.
 
I wonder why all the foaming mouth breathers that constitute the reader base of the Daily Mail aren't complaining about its headline, defending a convicted murderer, whilst getting another dig in about the legal system in this country committing the government to following the law.

I'm amazed he was even allowed a bail hearing, why should he be? Do we grant all war criminals leave to go home before their appeal?
 
The law is the law, and this guy broke it. It's interesting how the people most enraged by this ruling are also the ones who seem to believe in "British values" and are keen to trot out "don't do the crime if you can't do the time" whenever the state of UK prisons comes up.
 
Lol duese you crossed a whole new line on this thread well done.

By us having the moral high ground it allows our soldiers to Willy nilly invade these peoples countries if we start acting on their level we just become aggressors intheir lands.

The guy should be punished according to our laws. Why on earth you would want to be a soldier in a modern army I have no idea.
 
The fact he actually got caught saying "I just broke the Geneva Convention" shows that he knew what he was doing. He doesn't really have a leg to stand on...

War Crimes need to be treated as seriously as any other crime - This guy has to do the time or it could set a precedent.
 
In fairness I don't think deuse actually thinks this way, he just waited to see what direction the opinion in the thread was going and decided to take up the opposing viewpoint.
 
So many keyboard warriors.

Why would anyone want to join the forces, when your own government doesn't back you.

All this should have been brushed under the carpet, like it normally is and the people who brought it to the forefront need locking up.
 
SPG said:
So many keyboard warriors.

Why would anyone want to join the forces, when your own government doesn't back you.

All this should have been brushed under the carpet, like it normally is and the people who brought it to the forefront need locking up.
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Wat.
 
SPG said:
So many keyboard warriors.

Why would anyone want to join the forces, when your own government doesn't back you.

All this should have been brushed under the carpet, like it normally is and the people who brought it to the forefront need locking up.
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Your post is actually worse than deuse's drivel.......... well done you :rolleyes:
 
Marky said:
The fact he actually got caught saying "I just broke the Geneva Convention" shows that he knew what he was doing. He doesn't really have a leg to stand on...

War Crimes need to be treated as seriously as any other crime - This guy has to do the time or it could set a precedent.
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Yes, much as I do have a lot of sympathy for him, he knew exactly what he was doing.Why the **** he did it in front of a helmet cam though...
 
Uther said:
Yes, much as I do have a lot of sympathy for him, he knew exactly what he was doing.Why the **** he did it in front of a helmet cam though...
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I read that the particular squad he was part of had an aggressive mentality - He likely got the adrenaline flowing and got caught in the moment. Like you, I sympathise, war is ugly and horrible things happen all the time, but you can't just go around shooting people willynilly.
 
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