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So 37000 people dead p/a * 100yr lifespan (cant accuse me of not being generous) * 2 lifespans = 318.9 million people extinct?
Statistics everyone!
No real point to that, just me being pedantic
Poll: Poll pls: In the presence of a dedicated cycle lane, should cyclists be allowed to use the roads?
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So 37000 people dead p/a * 100yr lifespan (cant accuse me of not being generous) * 2 lifespans = 318.9 million people extinct?
Statistics everyone!
No real point to that, just me being pedantic
Cyclists have a right to use the road as much as any other vehicle. Any road user who cannot accept the responsibility that comes with using a vehicle on the road and following the rules in the highway code should simply not be there. If every road user simply followed the rules, allowed a little more time for journeys and ditched the selfishness we'd all get on just fine.
There is little point stating arguments on either side as the simple fact is either vehicle has as much right to use the road. The one argument that does irritate me slightly is the whole 'why do cyclists like to risk their lives on the road'. Anyone stating this needs to take a look at why they think cyclists are risking their lives. I think the majority of the time it'll end up being the selfish motorist being the reason the cyclists life is at risk. Of course there are some cyclists who shouldn't be on the road but the same can be said for users of other vehicles going by what I've seen over the years.
One day we'll hopefully just all get on......I hope
There is little point stating arguments on either side as the simple fact is either vehicle has as much right to use the road. The one argument that does irritate me slightly is the whole 'why do cyclists like to risk their lives on the road'. Anyone stating this needs to take a look at why they think cyclists are risking their lives. I think the majority of the time it'll end up being the selfish motorist being the reason the cyclists life is at risk. Of course there are some cyclists who shouldn't be on the road but the same can be said for users of other vehicles going by what I've seen over the years.
One day we'll hopefully just all get on......I hope
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I know what I'd be on if it's that good
Shared by pedestrians?
Also how would they turn right into that side road in the second link?
I'm going to go out on the bike tomorrow and use lots of vehicle carriageways. It will probably be a steady pace though, will no doubt hold up loads of traffic.
This is exactly the case in our area. Cycle lanes all over the footpaths. They undulate and have give way marks at road junctions. No way am I using that, I'll be a danger to any pedestrian and I have to stop every few hundred metres.
This is exactly the case in our area. Cycle lanes all over the footpaths. They undulate and have give way marks at road junctions. No way am I using that, I'll be a danger to any pedestrian and I have to stop every few hundred metres.
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The problem what you think is usable probably isn't.
You don't care if the cycle lane is a PITA to use.
But cyclists will, and not use it as much as a result.
Unless it was unsafe I cant see the Cyclist actually wanting to come out of the lane anyway considering it is literally designed to help make their journey safer.
I used to come out of it mostly due to people parking on it, or perhaps there was a set of stairs next to a nice 30 degree bank and I thought Id rekindle my MBUK reading days
I used to come out of it mostly due to people parking on it, or perhaps there was a set of stairs next to a nice 30 degree bank and I thought Id rekindle my MBUK reading days
Looks like that second one, if the cyclist needs to access anything on the right hand side of the road, they have to stay on the road, and can't use the cycle lane.
The first one I have no idea. You'd have to ask the cyclist. Its a bit like drivers who hog the overtaking lane though isn't it. I don't assume they are just odd awkward people.
Looks like a pretty decent lane! The trouble is that it looks like it is only useful if you want to travel from Kilmacolm to Port Glasgow. If you want to get off anywhere in-between it looks like a bit of a pain. I don't know, I've not seen it in person, but that is how it appears. I'm not saying this is the reason for why all of the cyclists you see are using the road, but it may be a contributing factor.
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Well since we pay for it we can use it.
Yep agreed.
So the focus should be on getting people making that <30 minute journey by means other than the car, surely?
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Can. Open. Worms everywhere
Which means motorists pay for our cycle lanes which they can use
There's been the trolling from the usual suspects like Minstadave and a few others, but on the whole its been pretty balanced actually, especially as far as GD goes.
We've even educated the OP as to the reason why we don't always use dedicated cycle lanes.
I suppose I'd be one of those lycra clad idiots at the Wandworth roundabout then.
The cycle path you talk about follows the route of the pedestrian path around - that is, I'm required to stop at every single stop/go walk light. It takes at least 3 times as long to get around as simply going on the road does.
In addition, the cycle path is frequently littered with broken bottles etc after nights out, which pose a major problem for my tyres. The roads get street sweepers every morning, the footpaths and cycle lanes don't.
Ps. I also keep my wits about me when going around it, I don't consider myself a careless cyclist.
My helmet even has wirelessly controlled indicator lights to make extra clear what my intentions are.
The cycle path you talk about follows the route of the pedestrian path around - that is, I'm required to stop at every single stop/go walk light. It takes at least 3 times as long to get around as simply going on the road does.
In addition, the cycle path is frequently littered with broken bottles etc after nights out, which pose a major problem for my tyres. The roads get street sweepers every morning, the footpaths and cycle lanes don't.
Ps. I also keep my wits about me when going around it, I don't consider myself a careless cyclist.
My helmet even has wirelessly controlled indicator lights to make extra clear what my intentions are.
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Depends, where i am most journeys are around the 30 mimute mark, but thats 30 minutes of doing a decent rate and not getting stuck in traffic, so cycling as a commuting tool wont work for me, but i do a fair bit recreationally (mostly off road, but of course youve got to get to the off road bit)