Poll: Poll pls: In the presence of a dedicated cycle lane, should cyclists be allowed to use the roads?

[adolf hamster]

now if all the cars just moved over I could actually get somewhere on my bicycle.. ! would solve all the problems

All that weaving through lanes barely missing the cars either side, and people wonder why i keep mentioning that dirty phrase "third party insurance"

infidelus- totally agree mate, they do it all round our neighborhood makes it a right pain to drive down the road and impossible to walk on some bits of the pavement, and this is an estate where every bloody house has a driveway.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Also, since when is going onto the other side of the road into incoming traffic the "normal/legal" thing to do... it aint... If a car did it, you'd no doubt state they were wrong...

Then again, its Grudas - the poster who will argue his point ad-absurdum even if he is obviously wrong...

Can I ask - If you had hit one of these vehicles whilst on the wrong side of the road... would you blame yourself or the driver?

If you did it in a car you would block the road for the oncoming traffic..... do you have a problem with the motorbikes doing it?

It would be the cyclists fault as he is over the white line moving around an obstruction as it would be in any head on collision.... (stupid question).

Yes, cyclists should* have insurance, more for their own well-being than anything else. Should have not must have.

Think of who is taking the risk, you crash your car into a pedestrian or a cyclist = dead. You crash into a car = £X000's of damage.

Cyclist crashes into a car = £x00 of damage and are more likely to do far more damage to them-self and their own equipment.

Cyclists must have lights and I am a firm believer of using them during the day also.

 

[Richie]

It would be the cyclists fault as he is over the white line moving around an obstruction as it would be in any head on collision.... (stupid question).

If you read it properly, I was asking Grudas as he seemed to be excusing everything he did in that video as ok... I wanted to see what his view on it was...

If you did it in a car you would block the road for the oncoming traffic..... do you have a problem with the motorbikes doing it?

Yes I do.... (stupid question).

Think of who is taking the risk, you crash your car into a pedestrian or a cyclist = dead. You crash into a car = £X000's of damage.

Cyclist crashes into a car = £x00 of damage and are more likely to do far more damage to them-self and their own equipment.

Well, I guess that makes it acceptable then....

 

[Nevakonaza]

Slightly OT, but this always annoys me, and not just on cycle lanes/paths. Where I live people constantly drive up the kerb blocking varying amounts of the pavement and the Police and Traffic Warden (singular) completely ignore it, and almost all of these roads have rear access to their properties.

Which part of "It is a criminal offence to drive on the pavement" is unclear? So if you've parked on the pavement, you've clearly driven on it and have therefore broken the law and should be fined.

Having a dropped kerb does not mean you can park there either. It gives you the right to cross onto your drive, not just stop there.

Gets right up my nose. When people in wheelchairs or with prams want to get past they actually have to walk into the road to do so. I'd be a Traffic Warden for free if it meant I could ticket every single one of these idiots.

/rant

Theres a one way street like that around the corner from me,They all have large drives BUT,Because its a one way street and it must be hard for them to back off it during peak hours,they just all park half way on the footpath/road so like you mention..if someone with a pram comes along..well good luck because the paths are not very wide.