Is anyone elses default stance on people a negative one?

terley

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So i see again and again shared all over facebook and other social platforms, as well as being discussed in general discourse various acts of selflessness shown towards homeless/migrants etc etc etc...

Am i the only one who looks at it and instantly things negatively? Judging the homeless people as deserving their lot in life for making **** poor decisions and ending up in the mess they find themselves by their own lack of character...

IDK.. perhaps being online for so long has ruined by gaze of the human race.

Am i just broken? Or am i a realist who understands that most people are just **** ups that deserve no respect.

 
I don't think it's as simple as your own choices deciding where you get in life, yes there most likely is many who are there by their own doing but definitely not all.

I've given money to homeless people before in the winter so they can get a room with the full understanding they can do what they want with the cash, on numerous occasions I've sat and had a chat with the friendlier homeless people and they're usually quite interesting, lies or not.
 
Don't get me wrong, its not like im not charitable.. I just refuse to reverse jerk myself by pandering to the ******** social media frenzy of doing acts of kindness for the homeless...

Where are the acts of kindness for the 60 hour a week working dad who works his hands to the bone to put food on the table for his kids and barely gets 5 minutes to himself?
 
terley said:
Where are the acts of kindness for the 60 hour a week working dad who works his hands to the bone to put food on the table for his kids and barely gets 5 minutes to himself?
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Roof over his head, warmth, food to eat, people to talk to ?
 
terley said:
All of those things are just one decision away for a homeless person.. Hostels are available, social housing..
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Not really.

You've got to get those first. It's far easier to end up on the street than it is to get off it.

I take a general negative attitude towards most things, especially the motives of people I deal with. Not sure if that's just lessons learnt in life or the depression I'm working with the doctors with.

I learn to like people, and I often do charitable acts or just general little, pay it forwards moments. See someone struggling, go and help, someone queuing to get on to a road, let them out. It's the little things you can do to make someone's day a little better.

Video's like the above I often think it's all about self-publicity. "Look how amazing I am!", if it was truly about doing a good deed you wouldn't need to film yourself doing it for the kudos
 
terley said:
Am i the only one who looks at it and instantly things negatively? Judging the homeless people as deserving their lot in life for making **** poor decisions and ending up in the mess they find themselves by their own lack of character..
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I doubt you're the only one but that doesn't make your outlook right.

Your opinions are based on various factors that you have experienced in your life growing up, some of them your own making and some of them totally outwith your control... Much like some of the people you talk about in the above quote.

If their "poor decsions and lack of character" have brought them to their current results then, by extension, Do we determine your borderline misanthropy is from a result of your "poor decisions and own lack of character" ?? :confused:
 
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AHarvey said:
Not really.

You've got to get those first. It's far easier to end up on the street than it is to get off it.

I take a general negative attitude towards most things, especially the motives of people I deal with. Not sure if that's just lessons learnt in life or the depression I'm working with the doctors with.

I learn to like people, and I often do charitable acts or just general little, pay it forwards moments. See someone struggling, go and help, someone queuing to get on to a road, let them out. It's the little things you can do to make someone's day a little better.

Video's like the above I often think it's all about self-publicity. "Look how amazing I am!", if it was truly about doing a good deed you wouldn't need to film yourself doing it for the kudos
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I like to think i am a very courteous person, i will help people with shopping, allow people to cross the road when waiting, let cars out when i can amongst other things..

But i just cant get behind the idea that people thing the homeless are just a bunch of vulnerable people that need saving..

Most of them are there because of ****** life choices and substance abuse, and way i say most, i mean MOST. there are some that are there due to mental health issues or due to factors outside of their control.

Those need help, but giving $100 to random homless like in the video above, when at least a few of them look like they abuse substances.. is just bad.
 
Richie said:
Could you elaborate on how homeless you were?
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Don't really see the need, but if you wish..

No house, no family home i could stay at, no friends house i could stay at, no hostel i could use and no access to any council housing.

Homeless as in, on the streets with whatever i could carry.
 
terley said:
I was homeless, now i'm not.. hardly ignorance.
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So your example is exactly the same as all homeless peoples cases ?

No.

Congrats on getting off the street, but you must appreciate that not all people can achieve this.

EDIT. I do agree with you that giving $100 to someone just to get their next 'fix' is pointless.
 
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Brizzles said:
So your example is exactly the same as all homeless peoples cases ?

No.

Congrats on getting off the street, but you must appreciate that not all people can achieve this.
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I refer you to my previous post

"I like to think i am a very courteous person, i will help people with shopping, allow people to cross the road when waiting, let cars out when i can amongst other things..

But i just cant get behind the idea that people thing the homeless are just a bunch of vulnerable people that need saving..

Most of them are there because of ****** life choices and substance abuse, and way i say most, i mean MOST. there are some that are there due to mental health issues or due to factors outside of their control.

Those need help, but giving $100 to random homless like in the video above, when at least a few of them look like they abuse substances.. is just bad."
 
The problem I see with all these videos is it's clearly to make the person filming feel better.

Most people I know who give the charity do so for bragging rights and to help them think self-worth/accomplishment than actually care about the cause they give to.
 
Self-absorbed invididuals seem to becoming rather a large minority, and is aggravating to me, but i can ignore it.

I am an eternal realist, hope does no just exist, you make it happen just as you make despair.
 
I would put it from the point of view that it is society's responsibility. This could be argued to be a cop out and to make a difference you have to do something.

But a few decades of life make you realise that nothing ever gets sorted, bad things just keep on happening.

Ultimately society has a collective responsibility to help people who won't help themselves and put them in a position where they can contribute to society.

So I have simpathy with the individuals, everyone can make mistakes, but the media and wealthy highlighting their plite and makeing token gestures make me puke.
 
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