80% of Britons unhealthy

I don't get this too - I work on a floor with 90% women (NHS) and almost all of them are morbidly obese, and the few that aren't are just obese. You would think that women would be more conscious of their appearance, but nope, each one of their legs is the same as both of mine together.

I don't know what they are eating to get like that, I actually have to make a concious effort to gain weight. Every day I eat porridge with peanut butter, then at 10 I have a breakfast sandwich from Co-op, then for lunch I have a McDonald's quarter pounder and a double cheese burger, then later a 500g tub of yogurt. For supper it's whatever there is in the fridge/freezer I can cook quickly. All this just to maintain 77kg @ 5'10".

I go to gym just 3 times a week too (Texas Method). I can only assume they are eating a lot of sugary foods/fizzy drinks.


Try and watch how many biscuits and cakes they eat. Fatties. You'd think people who were supposed to be looking after you and make you healthy would try to look healthy themselves.
 
Try and watch how many biscuits and cakes they eat. Fatties. You'd think people who were supposed to be looking after you and make you healthy would try to look healthy themselves.

True.

In our HR department (mostly female) Everyday its someone's birthday or leaving. The table is full of drunk food then they are quick to moan they their dress size increases.
 
Try and watch how many biscuits and cakes they eat. Fatties. You'd think people who were supposed to be looking after you and make you healthy would try to look healthy themselves.

The same people who can be twice the size of you that tell you, you need to lose weight?
 
You missed my point. I work.....work about 37 hours a week and still have time to go to the gym.

Work, work, work which equals to 60+ silly hours a week. What is considered normal working hours by some in the UK. Then come home, crash out front of a screen and stuff themselves silly because they are too tired to exercise after long working hours.

As I said, better time management.

Reminds me of the time I was speaking to an engineer and he'd worked out his hourly rate, it ended up being something like 8.80 an hour, it's ridiculous how much time people will sacrifice for money, he was also fat and by the sounds of it too lazy to even change jobs after knowing he was being taken advantage of.
 
Now we have plus size clothing and models :eek: As if its ok to be overweight and stay like that.

If a majority of a population are overweight, clothing companies would be losing out a massive market by not having plused sized clothing and models, it does feel like it's enabling them to a degree, but you can see why they would do it.

To go back to my earlier points in the thread, people (especially kids) aren't being educated enough on this. As a kid I was obese, I "didn't eat much" so I never understood why I was so fat. I basically had just lunch and dinner, and couldn't get that if I'm only having 2 meals a day how can I still be fat? Well turned out my 2 meals were absolutely loaded with calories, way above my BMR, so of course I was eating too much and packing on the weight, but as a kid you trust your parents to feed you properly, you don't really know any better. Some parents will just shove chips and something easy into the oven because they're exhausted from work and be done, and kids don't really question it, they just eat whatever as long as it tastes good. Parents are the ones causing their kids to be obese, but kids aren't educated enough to make their own decisions about it. We educate them about everything else including sex, but not proper eating habits. Hiding the amount of carbs on the back of packets and having stupid "serving sizes" is also ridiculous, it should be broken down by 1/4 of a pack at most if not 1/2 of a pack, not "1/16th of a pack has 75 calories", extreme example but you get what I mean.

Another thing is people are under the false belief that you have to exercise to lose weight, or if you magically start exercising you'll lose weight despite eating whatever you want. Diet makes up probably 80% of weight gain or loss, but people don't seem to understand this. Going to the gym and then stuffing your face with more calories than you burnt off will still keep you fat, and of course what happens? "Oh I'm not losing weight, therefore it doesn't work for me, I may as well stay fat". People need to understand food and how important calories out > calories in is, people need to be more calorie conscious and if they were, maybe we'd get somewhere. If people understand how it works and still want to remain fatties that's up to them.
 
I agree that diet is more important than exercise to maintain weight (ideally do both). For example (and these are just rough figures) a couple of small chocolate bars or one burger is around 500 kcal. It takes about an hour of hard exercise to burn that off with cardio or weight training. So maybe several hours walking?

Food nowadays is so high in calories for the size of the food that we keep eating far too many calories before we feel full. When I was losing weight I religiously checked every packet to see how many calories I was eating. My weight loss was mostly down to a combination of an hours walk each day but more importantly choosing the lower calorie food (e.g. if grabbing a sandwich I chose the lower calorie one even though the size was the same as the higher calorie one).
 
I am shocked when I see some people's plates. They are completely covered with food (Overloaded).

When I have a meal you can still see 50-30% of the plate. I'm slim..what a surprise.
 
Sadly I'm one of those 80%, I wouldn't say I eat a lot but I'm lazy, very lazy. Having been diagnosed with gallstones with the worst pain ever, I've had to let go of all oily food and fatty drinks like I can no longer have Costa latte without ending up in the A&E. Turning point was 3 gallbladder attacks in one weekend in October with 3 trips to the A&E.
I've dropped 20kg since September, now 90kg, no gym or exercise, just I dont eat, all I do is vape and have coffee daily. Couple of decent tasting non oil cooked meals per week with a cig or two per week.
that's not healthy either though, after a point you're going to get to your target weight and keep dropping and you'll then have to adjust to eating more and risk over eating again. I'd just eat a little less than you need, burn off 300-500 calories of fat a day and be happier for it in the long run. i dropped from 100kg to 73 in about 15 months by simply watching what i ate and getting a more active job for the most part. been at 73kg for over a year now and haven't been to the gym for like 18 months. just make small changes to lifestyle and eating.

I like my pasta for example. step 1 was not having garlic bread with it, a small sacrifice. a couple months later switch regular pasta for wholewheat pasta, then after that ditch the crappy premade sauce and made my own. then less sauce and smaller portions. smaller portions meant i was hungry in the morning so had to start eating breakfast etc etc just make gradual changes. A big change in diet is just going to be hard to stick to and have you wanting to eat like you used to. i still eat what i used to just it's the healthier version now and less of it.
 
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I'm both active and inactive. I spend a horrendous amount of time in front of my PC but have quite credible run times.

No doubt I'm still unhealthy.
 
I am shocked when I see some people's plates. They are completely covered with food (Overloaded).

When I have a meal you can still see 50-30% of the plate. I'm slim..what a surprise.

Yeah im often suprised at how much people seem to cram onto their plates, i find its much easier to fill the plate to an acceptable amount and just keep going back for more instead, its win win as you dont look like a pig and you get a little walk every 5 mins. :)
 
The amount of sugar in food is a massive problem, combined with the advice for eating "low fat" when most of the latest research shows that fat isn't really that harmful.

One of the problems is that enormous amounts of added sugar in our food has become a normal thing, the current recommendations for sugar intake are around 30g a day for an adult male (7 teaspoons) it's pretty hard to eat normal products you'd get from the supermarket in meaningful portion sizes, and not go past 50-60g of added sugar, let alone 30g. (an average breakfast cereal alone will be around 10-15g of sugar)

Carbohydrates are also a serious problem, a lot of what we eat is extremely carb heavy, rice/pasta/bread/etc are all very high carb foods and we consume so much of them often in the understanding that it's not really that unhealthy - because in many cases the labels are "mostly all green"

The problem is that consuming lots of carbs has a similar effect to consuming lots of sugar - it raises your blood sugar levels and causes your body to produce more insulin so your cells can use it as fuel - trouble is when you're sat on your backside, it's not needed so it ends up as glycogen, and ultimately it gets turned into fat..

Another interesting thing is that people often think "oh, this mars bar is only 150 calories, I'm allowed 2k a day so it's fine" trouble is, when you eat a mars bar - if you're not doing a strenuous activity, your blood sugar flies up, your pancreas throws out insulin - your cells don't need it, so it goes into instant fat storage.

Take this in contrast with 150 calories of a low carb food such as nuts, because most nuts despite being quite fatty aren't full of carbs or sugar, so your blood sugar levels don't skyrocket, your pancreas doesn't go into overdrive - the energy released is far less instant and used over time, rather than all just being turned into fat immediately.

The problem is, it's become completely normal to eat lots of sugar and carbs, most people think of excess sugar as being a can of coke or chocolate bar - but are often horrified when their bowl of cornflakes isn't that far off that of a mars bar, in the final analysis - and they eat that thinking it's good for them.
 
The amount of sugar in food is a massive problem, combined with the advice for eating "low fat" when most of the latest research shows that fat isn't really that harmful.

One of the problems is that enormous amounts of added sugar in our food has become a normal thing, the current recommendations for sugar intake are around 30g a day for an adult male (7 teaspoons) it's pretty hard to eat normal products you'd get from the supermarket in meaningful portion sizes, and not go past 50-60g of added sugar, let alone 30g. (an average breakfast cereal alone will be around 10-15g of sugar)

Carbohydrates are also a serious problem, a lot of what we eat is extremely carb heavy, rice/pasta/bread/etc are all very high carb foods and we consume so much of them often in the understanding that it's not really that unhealthy - because in many cases the labels are "mostly all green"

The problem is that consuming lots of carbs has a similar effect to consuming lots of sugar - it raises your blood sugar levels and causes your body to produce more insulin so your cells can use it as fuel - trouble is when you're sat on your backside, it's not needed so it ends up as glycogen, and ultimately it gets turned into fat..

Another interesting thing is that people often think "oh, this mars bar is only 150 calories, I'm allowed 2k a day so it's fine" trouble is, when you eat a mars bar - if you're not doing a strenuous activity, your blood sugar flies up, your pancreas throws out insulin - your cells don't need it, so it goes into instant fat storage.

Take this in contrast with 150 calories of a low carb food such as nuts, because most nuts despite being quite fatty aren't full of carbs or sugar, so your blood sugar levels don't skyrocket, your pancreas doesn't go into overdrive - the energy released is far less instant and used over time, rather than all just being turned into fat immediately.

The problem is, it's become completely normal to eat lots of sugar and carbs, most people think of excess sugar as being a can of coke or chocolate bar - but are often horrified when their bowl of cornflakes isn't that far off that of a mars bar, in the final analysis - and they eat that thinking it's good for them.

The funny thing is, carb content is cleverly hidden on the back of the packet not in clear view of anyone, so unless you actively look for it, you won't see it. It's especially funny when carbs are like 90% of the make-up of the product.
 
When you walk around a city and actually look at people, a huge percentage are overweight by some degree, and many are very overweight.

It's a pretty desperate state of affairs really and it's only going to get worse. What's even worse is overweight parents with young overweight children. Makes be really angry that the parents are setting them on that path so young.

It's shocking isn't it.

I'm in NZ and it's extremely noticeable here.

Just moved to Wellington (literally - yesterday) and went and done a food shop at my local supermarket. I'd say that at least 70-80% of people in there were well overweight. And this is in a nicer part of town too.

The girlfriend complained how small the fruit and vegetable section were but when it came to crap foods and drinks, there were 3 entire isles dedicated to it, and that's not taking into account pre-packaged foods.
 
It's shocking isn't it.

I'm in NZ and it's extremely noticeable here.

Just moved to Wellington (literally - yesterday) and went and done a food shop at my local supermarket. I'd say that at least 70-80% of people in there were well overweight. And this is in a nicer part of town too.

The girlfriend complained how small the fruit and vegetable section were but when it came to crap foods and drinks, there were 3 entire isles dedicated to it, and that's not taking into account pre-packaged foods.

I had a similar thing when I traveled around Asia a few years back. Spending a few weeks in countries where the population of overweight people is low. Then returning to the UK, popped out the next morning to do some shopping in Asda and it really hit me.

Families the size of potatoes, kids younger than 12 years old and they are massive! Walking around like Marshmallow Man. Unless you take yourself away from it and bring yourself back in then you will never notice.

I have been trying to tell me best friend to cut down the amount of fizzy drinks he has. The amount of bottles of coke he has per day is crazy. I have had words with him twice in the past to cut down or stop. He got arsey. So I gave up and told him straight, don't go walking around feeling sorry for yourself when you get diagnosed with type 2 diabetes or high blood pressure in a few years. As he is at a stage of his life where he needs to be looking after himself. Being 5.8 and waist size 40 isn't good at the age of 33. And he wonders why he has problems sleeping at night...
 
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I was doing well mid this year ear till my back went. 3 weeks of pain. Problem was as I couldn't exercise my diet went to crap and even when my back recovered I haven't done any exercise nor ate well since.

Plus side now Christmas is over I am sick of sweets and chocolate and looking forward to getting healthy again.

Best thing about exercise and healthy eating is you just feel so much better all the time.
 
I had a similar thing when I traveled around Asia a few years back. Spending a few weeks in countries where the population of overweight people is low. Then returning to the UK, popped out the next morning to do some shopping in Asda and it really hit me.

Families the size of potatoes, kids younger than 12 years old and they are massive! Walking around like Marshmallow Man. Unless you take yourself away from it and bring yourself back in then you will never notice.

I have been trying to tell me best friend to cut down the amount of fizzy drinks he has. The amount of bottles of coke he has per day is crazy. I have had words with him twice in the past to cut down or stop. He got arsey. So I gave up and told him straight, don't go walking around feeling sorry for yourself when you get diagnosed with type 2 diabetes or high blood pressure in a few years. As he is at a stage of his life where he needs to be looking after himself. Being 5.8 and waist size 40 isn't good at the age of 33. And he wonders why he has problems sleeping at night...

Wall-E saw the future?


I was doing well mid this year ear till my back went. 3 weeks of pain. Problem was as I couldn't exercise my diet went to crap and even when my back recovered I haven't done any exercise nor ate well since.

Plus side now Christmas is over I am sick of sweets and chocolate and looking forward to getting healthy again.

Best thing about exercise and healthy eating is you just feel so much better all the time.

I love the reaction times since the mind becomes so alert.
 
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I'm in the 20% :)
I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, I only eat healthy food and have averaged 4.2 hours of outdoors exercise per week this year.
 
I don't agree with that at all,

Heavy manual jobs were never really any good for keeping fit, they made you a bit stronger than the average person, but on the whole - exercise isn't really all it's cracked up to be for losing weight, - if you've looked at the latest research, it starts and ends in the kitchen. (I'm a part time aerobics instructor so I regularly deal with the super-fit and people looking to lose weight)

Also, in the 80s and 90s the contents of your average supermarket were drastically different to today, there was far far less sugar for a start, there were also hardly any takeaway chains compared to today, let alone online delivery - (justeat, deliveroo, etc) in the 80's especially, there were far fewer "carb heavy" foods than they are today, like pizza.



You can say "it's their own fault" to a certain extent, but not the whole extent, not unless you're very naive and simple.

In 2015 the percentage of overweight adults in the uk was 62.9% and rising, at what point do do we start to wonder that it *might* not be useful to simply blame them all and shrug it off? 70%? 80%? 90%? do we get to the same point as America, where involvement of major fast food companies directly buying into and influencing government policy is normal? Is it still "all their own stupid fault" when guidance written by WHO on halving the amounts of sugar is thrown out and ignored?

It seems clear to me, that this problem runs far, far deeper than people simply making bad decisions about what food they buy, when 1/2 of the food for sale in your local shops is loaded with excess sugar at harmful levels, I don't think it's fair to dump the blame for all of this, at the doors of the consumer.

They watch themselves get fatter and fatter and keep eating to much.
 
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