Israeli soldier *murders* wounded Palestinian on camera, gets away with it maybe?

Wounded Palestinian terrorist..... who had just attacked them.

Maybe when the Palestinian terrorists stop attacking the Jews?

Trump is pro Israel..

Lol just lol.

And the other side of he coin is when the israeli's stop attacking the Palestinians, swings and roundabouts really. Both sides are equally to blame for this mess but the problem is that Israel has the support of the USA and its military aid whereas the Palestinians don't have that luxury.
 
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I see no difference in what this guy did, and what the British soldier did.They were both wrong.The Israeli will probably get a pardon though.
 
Some were, a decent % were encouraged to move there from Europe. You'll also get a few black jews form Ethiopia too - again, like the blonde haired/blue eyed Jews from Europe the black African Jews are not exactly 'natives' nor is it really their homeland except for the religious link and possibly some recursive chain of Jewish great, great... etc.. grandmothers.

The Jews who moved there post-WW2 were basically Europeans - it is a 'homeland' to them mostly in a religious sense. Then again it is as much theirs as it is Christian and Muslim too.

This answer is about correct, the whole homeland idea is largely a farce, I have read up on this before but forget a lot of the details.
 
Lol just lol.

And the other side of he coin is when the israeli's stop attacking the Palestinians, swings and roundabouts really. Both sides are equally to blame for this mess but the problem is that Israel has the support of the USA and its military aid whereas the Palestinians don't have that luxury.

Palestinians have had lots of military aid - from countries like Syria and Egypt in the past. Speaking of Syria, as we now know from the civil war there, however much we might dislike a regime in that region, the alternative is far, far worse. I hope UK foreign policy now shifts to offer total support to Israel.
 
This answer is about correct, the whole homeland idea is largely a farce, I have read up on this before but forget a lot of the details.

Part of the problem is that many people conflate anti-zionisim with anti-semitisim.

It is perfectly possible to the the former without being the latter

(Irans position on this is particularly interesting, Iran has probably the oldest continuous Jewish community anywhere in the world. Tehran is full of synagogues and while the status of Jews in Iran has varied over the ages, they are generally regarded well and currently are even allocated a seat in the Iranian parliament. But they hate Zionists with a vengeance! "We recognize our Jews as separate from those godless, bloodsucking Zionists." Khomeini)
 
So some Arab Muslim terrorist got iced, why should anyone in the West care? Ah yes, because of the rampant antisemitism amongst the left.

This was discussed in length when that British soldier was denied bail after doing something similar. We cannot preach having a fair and balanced judiciary system if we let war crimes go unpunished. There has to be accountability for ones actions.
 
This was discussed in length when that British soldier was denied bail after doing something similar. We cannot preach having a fair and balanced judiciary system if we let war crimes go unpunished. There has to be accountability for ones actions.

I don't want a judiciary system that is fair and balanced to terrorists - I want one that's going to crush them under our heel!
 
I don't want a judiciary system that is fair and balanced to terrorists - I want one that's going to crush them under our heel!

Then we would need to be very careful about who decides on whether someone is a terrorist and how they go about making such a decision.

I am not convinced the victim in either case can really be a terrorist given that they were both on home soil and fighting foreign armies. Seems a grey area to me.
 
Part of the problem is that many people conflate anti-zionisim with anti-semitisim.

It is perfectly possible to the the former without being the latter

This, this and thrice this!

A Jewish family we know have been very good family friends for a fair few generations are rampantly anti-zionist and actively campaign against the state of Israel (and they are part of a much larger group of British and European Jews who do) how on earth can they be anti-semetic :rolleyes:

As to the scumbag medic, Israel dishing out one load of gash for the World's press and as soon as it's back is turned he'll be quietly pardoned and given a nice lump sum and a big apartment in the occupied territories and told to keep his head down.
 
I saw the video of this, and it is TOTALLY in-excusable.

It's a very sad state of affairs when this is deemed acceptable by a (any?!) society, and a PM is calling for a pardon.

Anyone watching the video will see it was cold blooded, calculated. He was clearly stopping the ambulance which was arriving that moment from treating the guy. He was reported to have said (by his own colleagues) that the guy "deserved to die" and had had to be calmed down by same said colleagues.

It was a defused situation, with a wounded assailant who had prospects of being treated and fairly trialed for his crimes.

Comparisons to the Blackman case are incorrect, the situation is was very different. It seemed (although it is hard to find statements from the soldiers that had attempted to treat the wounded man) that the wounded party in this case was probably too far from professional medical care to actually survive. He was also in an active battlefield situation, and under a very different set of circumstances.

I am not saying what he did is right, and not defending his actions, also when you read the full account, there is proof of other abusive behavior towards the wounded soldier.

Both cases, the shooters were clearly in the wrong, and both cases, they deserve to be punished. However, there are clear differences in the situation that should change the sentencing imo.

I don't want a judiciary system that is fair and balanced to terrorists - I want one that's going to crush them under our heel!

Then they get exactly what they want. Treating them like that creates a cause, and breeds a new generation of terrorists.

This is exactly why Israel and Palestine will continue to rage for generations.
 
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I know there are a few RT watching conspiracy types on here but seriously? WTF are you smoking. Sure the IDF aren't always playing by the rules but it isn't even comparable to Assad's forces.

The actual civilian deaths during the recent assault on Aleppo was in the region of 1600. We're not talking about the entire war here, rather the Russian backed assault on it over the last couple of months. That number is lower than the number of civilian deaths from the attack on the Gaza Strip last year (over 2000).

While there was media outrage at the death of civilians on in the Aleppo assault there just wasn't the outrage at Israel doing a very similar thing in the Gaza Strip.

Edit : http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28439404
The 1600 is not actually only the recent push, but estimated deaths over the last ~year, so the true number is lower.
 
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Then they get exactly what they want. Treating them like that creates a cause, and breeds a new generation of terrorists.

This is exactly why Israel and Palestine will continue to rage for generations.

Being 'fair and balanced' to the terrorists is working out so well at defeating the latest global jihadi wave hasn't it? We need to stop trying to figure out what these terrorists want all the time, what we should do is figure out how to stop them.

Glad to see that President Trump will stop the dangerous prisoner releases from Guantanamo Bay. Expect that place to get full again quick.
 
Then we would need to be very careful about who decides on whether someone is a terrorist and how they go about making such a decision.

I am not convinced the victim in either case can really be a terrorist given that they were both on home soil and fighting foreign armies. Seems a grey area to me.

The definition of terrorist in this sort of situation has always been that of a non military person that is fighting against the side you are on/support.

For example the nazis would have labelled the French resistance terrorists, and we label pretty much any irregular force that fights against our interests as terrorists yet argue that those (non ISIS affiliated) fighting against the Syrian government are "rebels".
 
Being 'fair and balanced' to the terrorists is working out so well at defeating the latest global jihadi wave hasn't it? We need to stop trying to figure out what these terrorists want all the time, what we should do is figure out how to stop them.

Glad to see that President Trump will stop the dangerous prisoner releases from Guantanamo Bay. Expect that place to get full again quick.

Sorry, not biting :)
 
Being 'fair and balanced' to the terrorists is working out so well at defeating the latest global jihadi wave hasn't it? We need to stop trying to figure out what these terrorists want all the time, what we should do is figure out how to stop them.

Glad to see that President Trump will stop the dangerous prisoner releases from Guantanamo Bay. Expect that place to get full again quick.

So instead we should act like terrorists? And the circle continues.

How about instead of just keeping people prisoner without any access to legal help we try them and sentence them? If they are as dangerous as you say then they will not be released.
 
So instead we should act like terrorists? And the circle continues.

How about instead of just keeping people prisoner without any access to legal help we try them and sentence them? If they are as dangerous as you say then they will not be released.

We should act like we want to win.

Actually according to the Geneva Convention, prisoners of war are allowed to be kept detained until whatever war it is has finished. I don't have a problem releasing them when the war on terror is over and we've won.
 
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