Airport attack in the USA

Amp34 · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:06

bingham67 said:
Really ones I have seen you would have to enter through arrivals which would look mighty suspicious walking the wrong way up nothing to declare

But maybe I have just not been paying much attention to how open they are.

For domestic the belts are usually directly in front of arrivals, so anyone can just walk in and mingle. There's no "nothing to declare", just doors to the street. People come and go all the time to meet family from flights for example, there woundn't be anything suspicious about it.

C.R.A.Z.Y · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:13

Depends on the airport I think.
The baggage area in Gatwick when I came back from Africa was 100% a secure area.

Will Gill · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:14

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Depends on the airport I think.
The baggage area in Gatwick when I came back from Africa was 100% a secure area.

Africa to gatwick is hardly domestic,

RIP to all those who have lost their lives

robfosters · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:31

He sounds Mexican, could be the start of Trump retaliatory attacks. Could just be a yank gun loving nutjob. God only knows

Anyway, RIP to the victims.

How long before we have security checks to even get in the airport.

Diddums · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:33

Be interesting to see how Trump tackles this. He's inherited one hell of a problem, that's for sure

VincentHanna · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:36

robfosters said:
He sounds Mexican, could be the start of Trump retaliatory attacks. Could just be a yank gun loving nutjob. God only knows

Anyway, RIP to the victims.

How long before we have security checks to even get in the airport.

Hispanic you mean? He's been confirmed as a US Citizen.

regulus · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:40

robfosters said:
He sounds Mexican, could be the start of Trump retaliatory attacks. Could just be a yank gun loving nutjob. God only knows

Anyway, RIP to the victims.

How long before we have security checks to even get in the airport.

Stansted used to do that a few years ago. Not flown out of there for a few years now but I remember the police pulling over cars and doing random checks just before you entered the car parking/drop off area.

Amp34 · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:47

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Depends on the airport I think.
The baggage area in Gatwick when I came back from Africa was 100% a secure area.

The actual Fort Lauderdale baggage reclaim.

Those doors on the left will lead out to the road, and you can see the baggage reclaim belts on the right behind the pillar.

It's pretty easy for someone to just walk in with a weapon if they want.

EDIT: courtesy of http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=974381

Housey · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:50

Local flights in the US allow people into the baggage collection area at some airports (i.e. they are not in a secure area, the public is free to walk in off the street and meet their friends and family as they await their bag), but not on international flights.

Amp34 · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:52

robfosters said:
He sounds Mexican, could be the start of Trump retaliatory attacks. Could just be a yank gun loving nutjob. God only knows

Anyway, RIP to the victims.

How long before we have security checks to even get in the airport.

I hope not, they are a nightmare. I've been through a few in other countries and essentially going through security (metal detectors and all) with additional hold luggage bags means the queues can be an hour at peak times.

Kamerad · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:53

Why would baggage collection need to be in a secure area?

acemastr · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:54

The guy checked in the weapon in Canada and flew down here with it, Canada being one of the least gun accepting countries on earth.

We are freely allowed to carry a weapon in an airport up to security though (concealed carry permit required)

bingham67 · 6 Jan 2017 at 20:55

Ye I read on reddit loads of homeless people go into the baggage claim area here it wide open.

Picture of the handgun used

https://twitter.com/jennifermayerle/status/817469595263139844/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Tunney · 6 Jan 2017 at 21:00

acemastr said:
The guy checked in the weapon in Canada and flew down here with it, Canada being one of the least gun accepting countries on earth.

Gun ownership in Canada is actually relatively common (ranked 12th in the world for ownership). Canada's attitude towards guns is completely different to America's though. Guns are fetishised in Canada.

bingham67 · 6 Jan 2017 at 21:04

Army National Guard confirms to @ ABC alleged shooter Esteban Santiago honorably discharged about 4 months ago.

leaskovski · 6 Jan 2017 at 21:06

Sounds like (from reading the reddit live feed), Ex US Army flies in (is a gun carrier) and losses his poop, and goes postal. Or, he got discharged because he is mentally unwell and after the flight goes postal.

Amp34 · 6 Jan 2017 at 21:06

You can walk into your local hardware store (Canadian Tire)(sic) and buy a gun if you want, with a licence obviously, but people use them almost exclusively to hunt wildlife not humans.

Amp34 · 6 Jan 2017 at 21:07

leaskovski said:
Sounds like (from reading the reddit live feed), Ex US Army flies in (is a gun carrier) and losses his poop, and goes postal. Or, he got discharged because he is mentally unwell and after the flight goes postal.

Yeah, perhaps PTSD or similar? It wouldn't be the first.

An interesting article on violence and PTSD.

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...d_murder_rates_related_to_war_experience.html

Andy90 · 6 Jan 2017 at 21:08

Terrible thing to have happened, condolences to anyone killed or injured.

Found this page as a result of looking for some information about US gun crime, some of the statistics, particularly number 2 are staggering.

Greebo · 6 Jan 2017 at 22:28

Amp34 said:
I hope not, they are a nightmare. I've been through a few in other countries and essentially going through security (metal detectors and all) with additional hold luggage bags means the queues can be an hour at peak times.

Lucky. Last time I went through an airport with security to enter it took to to three hours longer than normal. And was bloody hot queuing up to