Virgin wouldn't let me go off their unusable internet.

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Hi, please advice on the following situation.

Short version:

In a property I recently moved into I cant play DOTA because I get frequent short outages of broadband. It also affects other internet activities, but less severely. I recently signed a new contract (just over a month ago). I had 2 engineer visits, who didn't find anything to fix. As my broadband speeds are ok, but I get those disconnects every day, and they ruin my gaming. I called and virgin wouldn't let me go. What can I do?

Long version:

I've been using virgin fibre broadband for several years.I recently moved homes and live just across the street from my previous flat. I switched over the broadband from the previous address and also signed up for a new deal.

Before they did the home moving thing properly, they first made some ridiculous thing kind of by mistake. In the new property they activated broadband account of a previous tenant which I was using for a month or so, while paying equivalent monthly payment for the same broadband at my old address.

Already then I noticed that there were problems with the broadband, which otherwise works OK. I would get disconnects while playing DOTA (online game) and ping was not coming through to any server for several seconds at a time (up to a minute) multiple times a day. Enough to make me disconnect from the game, sometimes multiple times and lose it. Sometimes it was impossible to reconnect for several minutes.

But when I called them to sign a new contract they said it's temporary, as the broadband is not properly registered to me, that when they properly bring over my old broadband that situation would rectify itself.

It didn't help, still had the ping time outs (i see them in command prompt with ping command) Then I called an engineer, who came some days later, but could not help as there was a network fault in the area, and there was no internet at all. Some more time passed because I don't play day and night and the problem is not so obvious when not playing. I just had another engineer visiting, who found some noise in the broadband and tightened some connectors somewhere and said it's gonna be better. Just after he left I played a game of DOTA and immediately had those disconnects again (although sometimes you can play a game, that last up to an hour and not get them.) This situation is completely unacceptable so I called Virgin media and insisted I want to cancel, but they wouldn't let me. unless I pay full remaining credit some short of £300.

The gaming part is the most important for me and it is ruined.

What can I do here? Thanks.
 
Not used it myself but I've heard from others that ping plotter is good for showing evidence of network issues to ISPs. I believe there is a free version so maybe worth a try? www.pingplotter.com
I remember having similar issues with virgin media back in uni years ago. One of the most frustrating things to deal with.
 
Not used it myself but I've heard from others that ping plotter is good for showing evidence of network issues to ISPs. I believe there is a free version so maybe worth a try? www.pingplotter.com
I remember having similar issues with virgin media back in uni years ago. One of the most frustrating things to deal with.

Thanks I'll try that.

Is it the same issue if you are wired/wireless?

Do you have a spare router you can try and set the virgin hub in modem mode?

Yes wired and wireless. Have 2 pc's wired. And the first engineer replaced the router. Although the router that he took away was a new router given me 2 months prior and worked great at my old address. At the new address problems immediately showed.
 
So, so many of my friends want to shout about their 200mb connections, then try to game on it. Certainly in my area at least this is common with above company. Hope you get it sorted mate.
 
When I lived in London we had a yearly cycle of unusable for gaming, followed by upgrades and customer bandwidth increases back to unusable for gaming levels.

Constant packet loss in peak hours as the network just couldn't cope.

It happened at 10 to 20mbit, 20 to 50, 50 to 100-120 Mbit.
It took months to fix and upgrade. It was hellish but I'd complained so much I was basically getting it for free.

There was no other choice but 6mbit ADSL... Which I considered getting just to game with.

Tbh you are screwed. Good luck.
VM is superb when it works but when it comes to capacity problems you are at their mercy of their investment schedule.
 
Set up a tracker at thinkbroadband.com
Make sure your router is allowed to respond and let it go for a few days. It will show you how the connection is doing 24h a day and logs it all for you to show engineers if they care or even understand more than signal strength.

I might have logs from way back I'll show you see if they look like mine?

Good luck though....
 
Take some snapshots of the network with wireshark and send them to Virgin's customer service dept,see what they say.
 
Keep logs of any service interruptions. Then contact Virgin and tell them that the service has simply not been delivered and that you want to be reimbursed. I did this for about 9 months back when they wouldn't fix my internet.

I only used to get about £15 per month but that was because I also had TV and Phone which worked all right.

If you have only broadband you should be asking for all your money back untill they can prove that the service being delivered is as was advertised.
 
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