Donald Trump is 'gaslighting' all of us

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kitch9 said:
Hasn't CNN just released a load of stories about him which have absolutely no way of being verified and might as well been written by Roald Dahl?

Who's gas lighting who?

No fan of Trump but him suddenly becoming a fan of golden showering hookers in Russia of all places is a tad difficult to believe.
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Fake news comes from both sides it seems

Breitbart is up in arms about it, Buzzfeed published it... they're pretty much equivalent to each other

I guess at least mainstream news is mostly reported on the fact the paper exists rather than reporting on the rather dubious content/allegations.
 
FTM said:
so its ok to mock a physically disabled person because he mocked some other people for different things
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Well I think his argument was that being physically disabled wasn't related to the mocking given he's done the same to other's who aren't. I'm not sure he was arguing that it was an OK thing to do.
 
VincentHanna said:
If you compare the other mocking gestures he's done vs the guy who is actually disabled, they are completely different.
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did he intend to mock a man with a physical disability?

was he making fun of his voice or his haircut or his dress sense..or his actual disability

theres no grey are here really is there

he either did or didnt
 
Tuppy_Glossop said:
Would kinky stuff make him unsuitable for PotUS ? Not in my opinion. He should just fess up (regardless of the facts) and Russia would no longer have that hold over him.
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The documents claim that the Russians have financial information that could bring Trump down.

No-one really cares about Trump's sex life (I hope! :eek:).
 
mmj_uk said:
To clarify the "Trump mocking a disabled reporter" smear that keeps getting put out, he has been caught on camera doing the same thing towards about 5 people during his campaign, it's just his impression of someone who is a bumbling idiot.. it was just coincidence that on this one occasion the guy happened to have physical disability and the media have never let it rest.
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would it be ok if trump said to the guy that he must have a form of retardation due to whatever the guy said, as long as trump says that to others too? surely trump acting like a special needs person every time anyone says something stupid is even worse? and that's your defense?

mmj_uk said:
Trump's not even president yet and people are already judging him based on a mainstream media that has become completely unhinged and intelligence agencies that have lost all professionalism.
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trumps not even president yet and people judged him to be fit for it, but it's wrong to judge him to not be fit? if i were trump, i'd be doing his impressions of a bumbling idiot right now at you.
 
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Avenged7Fold said:
Well he intended to mock him to shut down the point he was making, he just used his disability to do so.
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if thats the case I dont see how anybody can argue its suitable behaviour

it just shows a lack of wit and a very wierd moral compass
 
Evangelion said:
Eight years, no scandals, nothing but pure class and solid leadership. Obama made America great again after Bush had virtually ruined her.
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After watching the BBC doco on Obama that showed how ridiculously hard it was for him to get stuff done - yet he still did, I find it an absolute travesty that he has to leave the White House. Worse still that we're left with Trump. Putting Trump in the same job as Obama is such an insult. On top of that Trump is such a child he seems more intent on dismantling all the good that Obama has done, rather than actually do any good for the country.

It amazes me how short people's memories are. I reminded somebody yesterday that Obama and Clinton caught/killed Bin Laden. Can you remember what a huge deal that was at the time? It was all the redneck Americans cared about. Obama was their saviour etc. Now they don't give a ****. Madness.
 
Scam said:
After watching the BBC doco on Obama that showed how ridiculously hard it was for him to get stuff done - yet he still did, I find it an absolute travesty that he has to leave the White House. Worse still that we're left with Trump. Putting Trump in the same job as Obama is such an insult. On top of that Trump is such a child he seems more intent on dismantling all the good that Obama has done, rather than actually do any good for the country.

It amazes me how short people's memories are. I reminded somebody yesterday that Obama and Clinton caught/killed Bin Laden. Can you remember what a huge deal that was at the time? It was all the redneck Americans cared about. Obama was their saviour etc. Now they don't give a ****. Madness.
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I'm not hating on Obama. Please list his achievements.

The country is still wild... Mass shootings, racial tensions and overall crime is still high.

And give over with this Bin Laden stuff. I wouldn't say the world has become a safer place without him... Have you forget what's gone down within the last 18 months?
 
Fairly sure the answer is no said:
would it be ok if trump said to the guy that he must have a form of retardation due to whatever the guy said, as long as trump says that to others too? surely trump acting like a special needs person every time anyone says something stupid is even worse? and that's your defense?
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He apologised for the act but the fact is he wasn't mocking the reporter for his disability. Where was the outraged media when he did the same impression multiple times during his campaign? omitting information from stories to paint a particular picture is every bit fake news as outright lying.

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trumps not even president yet and people judged him to be fit for it, but it's wrong to judge him to not be fit? if i were trump, i'd be doing his impressions of a bumbling idiot right now at you.
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The jury is still out as far as I am concerned as it should be at this point. Obama said plenty of things during his campaign and never delivered on them (ie shutting down Guantanimo), name a politician who hasn't done 180's on policies said during election campaigns?

The US media is laughable at the moment and US intelligence agencies are not coming out of this well either, they were repeatedly denied permission to look at DNC servers and are acting based on third party information and this latest story about Trump could have been written by a 15 year old for all we know and yet it's been leaked into the media and taken seriously without any evidence at all.
 
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mmj_uk said:
He apologised for the act but the fact is he wasn't mocking the reporter for his disability. Where was the outraged media when he did the same impression multiple times during his campaign? omitting information from stories to paint a particular picture is every bit fake news as outright lying.
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It wasn't the same impression

I'm sure there are comparison videos
 
DAIR said:
I'm not hating on Obama. Please list his achievements.

The country is still wild... Mass shootings, racial tensions and overall crime is still high.

And give over with this Bin Laden stuff. I wouldn't say the world has become a safer place without him... Have you forget what's gone down within the last 18 months?
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I never said the world was safer without Bin Laden, but if you're seriously arguing that getting rid of the world's #1 most wanted terrorist is not an achievement then you're either trolling or on cloud-cuckoo land.

As for Obama's achievements, just Google it. There's so many.. Affordable Care Act, Cuba relations, raising minimum wage, Paris Agreement, same-sex marriage, Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform, Iran nuclear deal, repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"..
 
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