Alternative medicine strikes again

Orionaut said:
Trouble is, that would make the conspiracy theorists position even stronger. (And their position is already quite strong, otherwise this wouldn't be an issue)

Also,

ALL medicine was "Alternative" until it was accepted.

If you had told Hypocratus that Disease (well some anyway) was cause by tiny creatures that could be killed with mould, they would have thrown you in the Adriatic.

More recently, a chap called Dr Semmelveis was kidnapped by his collegues, thrown in a Lunatic asylum and beaten to death for daring to suggest that Drs should wash their hands.

A total ban would have the effect of stifling research. since "Proving that something works" is actually quite surprisingly difficult. (Also a lot of "Alternative medicine" comes down to dietary theories, Where does medicine end and cookery begin|??)

(I refer you to this book https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Ba...F8&qid=1484895626&sr=8-1&keywords=Bad+Science Even "Proper" scientists and researchers can generate ambiguous results that are open to massive abuse)
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yeah your right, i guess it wouldn't work - i like to dream that people aren't idiots but its true.
 
I am not suggesting ban any unapproved cure or research, i am suggesting that any unapproved or studied claims for a cure cannot be advertised as a cure. If people want to continue to be idiots, let them but dont allow un-compromised idiots to join them through advertisements.

It is a constructive restriction and prevents BS from becoming popular like alt medicine fads. They can hinder research as much as not allowing the search for alternative cures. If their alternative medicine actually works, itl be become medicine and wont be dismissed so easily if there wasn't alternative cures left, right and centre claiming water will cure cancer.

If you want to try and find a cure then fair enough but unless you have proof it can work, dont call it a cure. Simples. It may sound daunting but cures should have to go through this process to be found regardless as it allows doctors and researchers to learn of possible side effects and further refine the drug to improve its effects or remove its ill effects. Allowing people to skip the research and testing part of it and go straight to the marketing of the cure does more damage for medicine than good.
 
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Raoh said:
Just to offer an alternative opinion on this thread for a little balance, although I doubt it'll be popular because I'm not very conventional. :P

'a load of ignorant, at best, dangerous at worst nonsense..'
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I had a very brief discussion with someone on facebook once concerning cancer treatment. The charming person took it upon themselves (on a thread started by a lady who had just lost her father due to cancer and was doing a charity event to raise money for cancer research) to state that cancer research was fake, the cure was known and it was all about the money (sounds like someone you know?)

The worst thing was, the bloke had kids of his own and would prevent them (or try) from receiving any treatment if they were unfortunate enough to develop cancer.

People are not only stupid and ignorant but some should not be allowed to breed nor leave their padded room.
 
Raoh said:
Just to offer an alternative opinion on this thread

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Just try and keep an open mind, as history teaches, conventional opinion and theories often turn out to be completely wrong, but if you wall yourself in and dismiss things because they're a little different or not the norm at the time, then you're limiting yourself and your options.
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You're asking people to keep an 'open mind' after making an incredibly ignorant and closed minded post mostly based not on facts but on conspiracy theory. It is an incredibly stupid position to take and as has been seen in the OP it costs people their lives. People like you, regurgitating drivel like that, actively harm others. Go read a copy of bad science and try to open your own mind before promoting such utterly irresponsible nonsense.
 
Open mind means "i dont want to actually do the hard maths/analysis and want a nice simple analogy like they give in sci fi shows"
 
pooley said:
still no cure for cancer? wow the cash cow that keeps on giving..
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Not sure if serious.

There are hundreds of types of cancer and many of them do have treatments now, the problem is that some are harder to treat with some methods due to location, some tend not to be found until too late, and some spread much faster than others.

So it's not something there is a single one size fits all treatment for.
 
Werewolf said:
Not sure if serious.

There are hundreds of types of cancer and many of them do have treatments now, the problem is that some are harder to treat with some methods due to location, some tend not to be found until too late, and some spread much faster than others.

So it's not something there is a single one size fits all treatment for.
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kinda was tbh, i suppose it will only get worse with the toxic world we live in today :(
 
Well, i think its more likely to get worse as we live longer and allow cancer to take the lead as we handicap the biggest killers which were fairly easy to cure or prevent people from contracting. The funny thing about something contagious like TB, the moment you start vaccinating most people, it gets harder for the virus to survive in areas and it goes from being something difficult to contain the spread of to something that is easily contained as more people are vaccinated. The western world was rife with polio not that long ago, it was made pretty much eradicated in a matter of decades but is prevalent in poorer countries.
 
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Picking one "proven benefit" at random:

Reference to a nutrition institute that is a dead link - no medical journal, trial or actually any research. It's just on a list somewhere on the internet so that's proof right?

Numerous anecdotes you say! Sign me up.

Maybe you need to look at the "research" you link to.
 
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