Alternative / neutral online news source?

h4rm0ny said:
Governments and big organizations obviously and demonstrably try to use mass media to control what and how people think. The EU has an entire agency (East Stratcom) dedicated to managing Russian news sources in Europe. The EU voted to further fund them further last month. I can't think of any government that doesn't actively fund some agency or the other for such purposes.

Governments try to use mass media to control people habitually and have done since the days of the printing press led to public pamphlets.

To try and play the "Conspiracy Nut" card against what I said is ridiculous. In the very literal sense that I ridicule you for trying it.
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Do you believe in objective truth? The head of RT is on record saying that she does not.

If news organisations are being run on the view that everything is subjective then there's a huge risk that populations will become cynical and abandon the news as a source of factual reporting.

That is what EastStratCom is about. It's not about "controlling people" - it's about informing and educating them about the nonsense that's out there.
 
I use The Economist for the most part. BBC news is what is on the TV more than any other. Reading opinions on topics that pop up from time to time on this forum also tends to provide me with a more alternative view, fortunately on this forum it is generally well moderated where even the more extremes of both sides of an argument can get their point across.

None of the above I would consider "unbiased" although The Economist always trumpets itself as some form of a Liberal Centrist so doesn't try to hide the fact that they lean towards a certain viewpoint. As long as you read it with the knowledge that they are not completely impartial it is a great resource that provides mostly fact based news on most important global topics. They are also not afraid to put opposing viewpoints in their "Letters to the editor" section of which I wish they would make larger.

Recently The Economist has had quite a few swings and misses in regards to politics, of which it observes and accepts that there is perhaps a detachment with the current way of doing economics via models and mathematics against the old school social science of economics with one foot in politics. This can be seen in these recently published articles:

http://www.economist.com/news/chris...culty-shows-way-economics-taught-depends-what

http://www.economist.com/news/finan...inistration-finds-economics-profession-crisis
 
Reuters, FT, Bloomberg, New York Times, Ars Technica, Slate, Huffington Post, Economist

The BBC is neutral, dumbed down a little and they have a terrible policy of trying to appease the far right and give wackos the same legitimacy as experts.
 
The BBC is a very good source in general for news. Although there may be some bias here and there in the language used it's not hard to just skim that off and take the facts as presented.

That's after you've blocked the comment sections which are full of deranged kippers of course.

Ars Technica for tech stuff.
 
Tefal said:
neuro linguistic programming, a discredited mind control/brainwashing technique. also peddled as a cure for cancer and aids by alternative medicine nutters.



asim believes the government/various nefarious organisations use the media to try and control the thoughts of the population.
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Tefal said:
yeah except i was talking about his theory of literal mind control.

are you saying you belive the government is using discredited mid control techniques on you?
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No one is talking about "literal mind control" whatever that is, it is defined in your own head I'm afraid, and it's not how psychology works.

NLP to cure cancer and **** is what is discredited lmao. That's the thing some idiots who don't actually understand psychology have created some crap called "NLP", and that is what people google when they first see anything to do with the effect of linguistics.

Derren Brown uses basic linguistic programming in every single one of his TV shows and his shows are very successful. Paul McKenna uses it in his smoking book and that book is rated highly too. If one person stops smoking from Paul McKenna's book then don't you see the power of linguistics? It doesn't affect everybody the same, not at all. Personally I'm impervious to it, I only read stuff for purposes of analysis as opposed to informational purposes.

Also it's not just linguistics or the trademarked buzzword "NLP" as I mistakenly called it. It's the implantation of thoughts too and various other psychological devices. I just call it NLP when I'm talking with psychologically minded people that's all. Didn't realise people would just google it and see it's an attempt to cure cancer. Maybe that is a good thing, hmmm.


The most disastrous thing, after the availability of media to masses of braindead people, is the availability of media to children. That just scares me. A few decades ago it was just Disney, the scope has increased by 1000. I mean when they can get prostitutes to be a role model for children, you know something is not right.
 
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asim18 said:
No one is talking about "literal mind control" whatever that is, it is defined in your own head I'm afraid, and it's not how psychology works.

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You have in another thread. You have since since edited your response but you did say that the BBC used subliminal messages to brainwash people.

This sort of thing is not to be confused with what h4rm0ny was discussing.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
You have in another thread. You have since since edited your response but you did say that the BBC used subliminal messages to brain wash people.
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You cant simply "use subliminal messages" to "brain wash people". Why would I say that? But still I'm offering to explain further so if you want to discuss something I've said "in another thread" please reply in that thread. Thanks.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
This sort of thing is not to be confused with what h4rm0ny was discussing.
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What was harmony discussing?

I think you missed post 33.

Controlling the thoughts of the population is what I am talking about here. I haven't mentioned "brainwashing" once in this thread, and even then you seem to assume it's literally washing of the brain, you do not have a psychological understanding of brainwashing.
 
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asim18 said:
Derren Brown uses basic linguistic programming in every single one of his TV shows and his shows are very successful.
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Deepen Brown is a magician, don't believe everything he says at face value. Have you ever heard of misdirection?

The most disastrous thing, after the availability of media to masses of braindead people, is the availability of media to children. That just scares me. A few decades ago it was just Disney, the scope has increased by 1000. I mean when they can get prostitutes to be a role model for children, you know something is not right.
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You still haven't posted any evidence...
 
There doesn't seem to be any evidence on the effectiveness of NLP, in that way, it is more like a religion or alternative medicine. Only 'evidence' i have seen is testimonials and anactotal.
 
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