why are prices so high ?

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was about to upgrade but you can forget it with the price of everything ?
even a g3258 is £75 huh did I miss a meeting ? ah well their loss looks like I wont be having a gaming pc for a long time.
 
Brexit has meant the exchange rate for the £ to $ has dropped like the proverbial (insert cultural reference here). nearly all tech is bought in Dollars. bad exchange rate means even worse prices than usual.
 
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I've seen this G4560 cpu which would be the best board and ram to get with it ? any b250 board ?
 
Wait for Ryzen and Vega, it should only be a month or two, and it may shake up pricing in the market considerably.
 
the cost of everything is going up massively in these last few years and that includes computer hardware, ram, hard drives and just about everything has almost doubled in price and will probably keep getting more expensive. Sadly this means my next PC will most likely be my last for a very long time unless I either move to another country or become rich.
 
Ryzen and Vega will make 0 impact on the budget options, and there's a greater chance of winning the lottery than AMD coming out with anything better for the price than the G4560.

@C64, if you already have a Skylake CPU (or know someone with one), you can buy a H110 mobo (which will be cheaper) and update the bios, and use that for the G4560. Otherwise, yeah, whatever's cheapest will do fine, I'd do 16 GB DDR4 instead of 8 though if you do any kind of multitasking or have more than just the game open.
 
Have you also noticed that the latest OCUK new products are expensive. £60 for a mic, £130 for a sound card. Seriously doesnt matter how they spin it if people buy that they have more money than sense. IMHO.
 
Wait for Ryzen and Vega, it should only be a month or two, and it may shake up pricing in the market considerably.

To make matters worse Intel have said that Cannon Lake is going to be early 2018! I was looking forward to a potential big upgrade later this year but now I'm not sure it's worth it and sit tight and wait for Cannon Lake :confused:

Stoner81.
 
Have you also noticed that the latest OCUK new products are expensive. £60 for a mic, £130 for a sound card. Seriously doesnt matter how they spin it if people buy that they have more money than sense. IMHO.

You might want to shop around for peripherals, you can buy a sure studio quality mic for £90..
Do you need pro studio quality audio gear?
 
Brexit has meant the exchange rate for the £ to $ has dropped like the proverbial (insert cultural reference here). nearly all tech is bought in Dollars. bad exchange rate means even worse prices than usual.

However everything is much cheaper in America where they use dollars.

For instance I could go to USA and buy literally anything for much cheaper even after converting it back to pounds.

The only thing I can think of is the cost of doing business here in the UK must be higher. But then government need to cut business rates, etc.

There are too many taxes here and all of them are high and the super rich avoid/evade them. Google, amazon, starbucks, etc paid literally nothing in tax compared to their revenues.

Take Dyson it's a British company. It's Fan/Heater is £400 in UK. £300 in USA. So they are charging their home market £100 more than foreign markets. Britain needs to start voting with their wallets if they want prices to reduce.
 
The UK has to cut government spendings
And slim down its welfare system
As the repeated deficit that happenes every year is lowering the value of the currency
The high taxes are not helping production
Brexit is showing the real depreciation of the British pound
It is not depreciating it
 
Try to get some second hand parts? seen some really good deals in mm before. Whats your current spec anyway
 
However everything is much cheaper in America where they use dollars.

For instance I could go to USA and buy literally anything for much cheaper even after converting it back to pounds.

The only thing I can think of is the cost of doing business here in the UK must be higher. But then government need to cut business rates, etc.

There are too many taxes here and all of them are high and the super rich avoid/evade them. Google, amazon, starbucks, etc paid literally nothing in tax compared to their revenues.

Take Dyson it's a British company. It's Fan/Heater is £400 in UK. £300 in USA. So they are charging their home market £100 more than foreign markets. Britain needs to start voting with their wallets if they want prices to reduce.

The UK has lower corporation taxes than the USA.
 
A lot isn't about the dollar/pound value directly - though that is hurting prices - but the uncertainty of how things are going to go is pushing companies to make money while they can.
 
Try to get some second hand parts? seen some really good deals in mm before. Whats your current spec anyway

yes i grabbed a g3258 and board from the mm and will just sit it out see how it all pans out even though that 4 threaded 2 core kabylake looks good still a halfway house
 
Wait for Ryzen and Vega, it should only be a month or two, and it may shake up pricing in the market considerably.

I see this opinion offered a lot in the run up to a new release but afterwards the prices don't seem to change that much. When the 1080's were released I was thinking about getting a 2nd 980ti but the prices barely changed and in some cases i seen some prices actually rise.
 
I see this opinion offered a lot in the run up to a new release but afterwards the prices don't seem to change that much. When the 1080's were released I was thinking about getting a 2nd 980ti but the prices barely changed and in some cases i seen some prices actually rise.

Traditionally it would have been the case where they'd release a card 70-100% faster than the previous generation top end and prices of the old generation would tumble. Now though they are trickling out performance increases.
 
I have just finished a four year project that involved frequent business trips to the US and I did enjoy buying a lot of my geeky things at a fair old discount especially when I was getting $1.65 to the £.

But the US is a funny old place. They have a central tax, like our income tax but each state is allowed to apply their own income tax and sales taxes on top. As a result each state has uts own model and different rates. For example Florida (where most of my business trips were) gets a lot of tourists so they set their sales tax to 6.5% but thier income tax to 0%. Other states do it the other way round and some do a combination of both. You also get county adjustments, for example one of the shops that I visited was annoyingly in a county that added an additional 0.5% sales tax.

Because the sales taxes vary so much, the advertised prices don't include it - it gets added at the till.

They also have no import tax so they can order stuff from China without fear of an extra tax and courier admin fee. That helps drive down the prices but I guess Trump might put a stop to that. Also if you buy online from a store that is in a different state then you don't pay any sales tax - but the US are clamping down on that and big players like Amazon are adding the sales tax for the state that the item is delived to.

So buying in the US - when the exchange rate was 1.5-1.65 prices looked really cheap, when the 7% sales tax was added on it looked cheap and then when you saw the credit card bill and saw the commission charge it was less cheap. As the rate crept down to 1.25 I found that it was barely cheaper than the UK, a little bit but not enough to get excited about.

So when comparing UK and US prices you should really take 20% of the UK prices to get a true comparison before sales tax.

As for prices rising because the the £ has lost about 20% of its value after Brexit - understandable - but at the same time you rarely see prices tumbling when the £ gets strong. It is a one-sided deal.

Cheers,

Nigel
 
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