Disability benefits: PIPs should be for 'really disabled'

Cromulent

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Not sure I really agree with this. Having suffered from many different mental health conditions I know how disabling they can be. I know PIP is for the extra expenses that disability causes people. But taking it away from people with certain mental health conditions isn't going to help them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39097019
 
StriderX said:
They're just preparing for the massive increase in anxiety and depression when spending 30 years in education doesnt get you a job.
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Back when my Dad was about 18 something like 5% of the population went to University and you were pretty much assured of getting a job. Now 50% of people go to University and no one can find jobs anymore. If you want to be assured of getting a job now you need a masters or even better a PhD.
 
Cromulent said:
Back when my Dad was about 18 something like 5% of the population went to University and you were pretty much assured of getting a job. Now 50% of people go to University and no one can find jobs anymore. If you want to be assured of getting a job now you need a masters or even better a PhD.
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Or just a degree in a useful subject...
 
Cromulent said:
Back when my Dad was about 18 something like 5% of the population went to University and you were pretty much assured of getting a job. Now 50% of people go to University and no one can find jobs anymore. If you want to be assured of getting a job now you need a masters or even better a PhD.
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Or better yet, spend 30 years in the industry.

Experience is starting to count for more now more than ever. With every kid and their dog going to university and leaving with a degree in religious studies and trying to get a job in Social Media Marketing.

e; Dammit @Dis86 get out my head
 
But how ever do you get in the industry if you have no experience in the first place?

I'm fed up with the circle jerk when it comes to CV writing and Interviews, where you just embellish the truth for a few minutes for just the possibility of job, regardless of all the lies/half truths you'll be telling to climb the corporate ladder.
 
StriderX said:
But how ever do you get in the industry if you have no experience in the first place?

I'm fed up with the circle jerk when it comes to CV writing and Interviews, where you just embellish the truth for a few minutes for just the possibility of job, regardless of all the lies/half truths you'll be telling to climb the corporate ladder.
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You take a junior position. You start in a related trade.

As an example a friend of mine really wanted to study medicine but couldn't get accepted. So he started working as a porter. It showed his dedication. It was the leap that got him on a course in the end.
 
As interesting as the job market / education is guys I'd rather keep this on the subject of disability benefits which I think is a subject which is often overlooked unfortunately :).
 
Cromulent said:
As interesting as the job market / education is guys I'd rather keep this on the subject of disability benefits which I think is a subject which is often overlooked unfortunately :).
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Stop keeping it on track.

Isn't the point of pip that it assists with added expenses some disabilities incur?
 
Dis86 said:
Stop keeping it on track.

Isn't the point of pip that it assists with added expenses some disabilities incur?
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Yep. That is the point of PIP. So for instance if you can't use public transport it is there to used for things like taxis (as an example).
 
Cromulent said:
Back when my Dad was about 18 something like 5% of the population went to University and you were pretty much assured of getting a job. Now 50% of people go to University and no one can find jobs anymore. If you want to be assured of getting a job now you need a masters or even better a PhD.
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More than enough jobs going around, just people refuse to do jobs that are "below them".
 
That article covers physical disability and mental, but what about sensory loss? I get the lower rate for both care and mobility due to having 1 eye only, and about 10% sight left in that eye (-27 prescription.. so blind without it!) and hearing aids for severe hearing loss. I've not yet had the PIP letter, but it's only a matter of time. A friend who is on DLA for eyesight loss has had his PIP letter about 6 weeks ago.
 
Pawnless Endgame said:
That article covers physical disability and mental, but what about sensory loss? I get the lower rate for both care and mobility due to having 1 eye only, and about 10% sight left in that eye (-27 prescription.. so blind without it!) and hearing aids for severe hearing loss. I've not yet had the PIP letter, but it's only a matter of time. A friend who is on DLA for eyesight loss has had his PIP letter about 6 weeks ago.
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I have no idea about sensory loss but I imagine glasses and hearing aids are expensive which PIP really should help with if they are essential. I would hope that it would continue to be paid.
 
Cromulent said:
Yep. That is the point of PIP. So for instance if you can't use public transport it is there to used for things like taxis (as an example).
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Which might be the case with physical illness, but there are certain to be some conditions, this doesn't apply to.
I'd love the 3.7Billion saved in theory by this action to be directly spent on mental health.
Preventative, and future self fulfilling.
Get people well, they and the country benefits.
 
They are always cutting the wrong benefits, instead of punishing disabled people they need to stop this whole child benefit nonsense where we throw money at people for having kids regardless of need. It's disgusting that people earning £50k can be getting child benefit but disabled people are getting money taken away,
 
Cromulent said:
Yep. That is the point of PIP. So for instance if you can't use public transport it is there to used for things like taxis (as an example).
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PIP is about saving money, not helping disabled people. This will bite the Cons on the arse again.
 
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