Girl dies after turned away by GP...

kindai said:
Tragic yes, but, where do the family get off asking for a criminal inquiry and for the GP to be struck off.
So given the emergency situation, why the hell didn't the parents do anything for 4 and a half hours? Either by taking her to A+E or calling 999.
Don't get me wrong the GP sounds like a nasty piece of work, but this sounds like the parents aren't willing to accept their own personal responsibility for how things went down after.
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Working in Clinical Negligence I see similar things every day and the fact is most people aren't the sharpest tools in the box and need protecting.
The GP Surgery had a Duty Of Care to see the child and I expect to see a payout from this incident.

Oh and can people get it in their heads to ring 112 and not 999 especially if you're using a mobile.
 
GP sounds like a nasty piece of work, even her staff disliked her and her punishment for screwing up seems to be 6 months holiday on full pay, followed by another job elsewhere. What she did sounds like gross negligence, not a silly little mistake. She should have been struck off.
Poor little girl :(
 
Rroff said:
If they'd called 111 in that situation they'd have normally sent them to a&e.
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They would've sent out an ambulance, I've seen it on several occasions with asthma. ridiculous situation all round. I have asthma and this ****** me off no end, it's no joke having an asthma attack and should be taken as seriously as a heart attack if there's no inhaler available or it doesn't stop the symptons
 
dowie said:
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I saw your post and I'll start a thread on our Intranet tomorrow.
What is true is that 999 is a throwback to the old days when we used circular diallers and ringing 999 was the hardest task on the dialler where today the emergency services get 1000s of mis-calls a day because it's very easy to dial 999 accidentally. For that reason they would like us all to use 112 and get rid of 999 but that's not likely to happen for decades.
 
Luke said:
This is the bit I'm struggling with. If she felt her daughter was well enough to take home then she has to take some of the responsibility. Instead it reads as though she watched the condition worsen for 5 hours and didn't seek further help until her daughter collapsed.

Given her daughter had been to HDU several times in the past through asthma, I'm not sure why she didn't go straight from the GP to either A&E or a walk in centre to see another doctor.
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For whatever reason they didn't take it any further and go elsewhere it was a bad decision. Throwing all their energy into taking down the GP will largely by driven by guilt and wanting to place blame away from themselves.

Bad decisions made by everyone involved.

I'm sure they'll be a big payout, there was a breach in the duty of care, something awful happened and this would likely not have happened if she was seen. The defence the parents didn't take sensible action in the hours afterwards won't wash in court.

I'm not sure the RCGP has any guidance on turning away patients that are late, if they do I suspect that it wasn't followed.
 
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Wow, that thick layer of polarised adjectives smeared over the facts in the daily mail article.

In hindsight the GP should have compromised the other patients appointments because the girl died.

In hindsight the parents should have gone to A&E if their child was having a current and serious problem.

But that last part doesn't appear at all. Blame 110% on the GP and try and get her to commit suicide in revenge.
 
Hotwired said:
In hindsight the GP should have compromised the other patients appointments because the girl died.
In hindsight the parents should have gone to A&E if their child was having a current and serious problem.
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^ this. I can also understand the strong response for a criminal case etc from the mother, even the tiniest amount of guilt at the back of her mind for not going to A&E immediately must be one hell of a load to have on her shoulders, thoroughly understandable to lash out at one of the compounding factors behind her loss.
 
Hotwired said:
Wow, that thick layer of polarised adjectives smeared over the facts in the daily mail article.

In hindsight the GP should have compromised the other patients appointments because the girl died.

In hindsight the parents should have gone to A&E if their child was having a current and serious problem.

But that last part doesn't appear at all. Blame 110% on the GP and try and get her to commit suicide in revenge.
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You missed this bit in the BBC article:

But the health board checked computer records at the surgery which showed the doctor did not see any patients between 16:55 and 17:20 after a number of cancellations that day.
 
djshauny1 said:
Why didnt the mother take her up the hospital ASAP?
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As someone with asthma who has had a few asthma attacks, I literally have zero clue why they would book an appointment at the local doctor, rather than going to A&E themselves or phoning an ambulance.

An asthma attack can go from bad to life threatening pretty quickly and it sounds as though this girl has previously had some serious issues, so they should have known this.

Sure the doctor should have seen them, but the parents aren't blameless in this at all, poor little girl what a horrible tragedy.
 
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