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BMW need some lessons in suspension damping as with their big saloons they forgot that traction starts with damping and the M5/M6 and F10/F11 models have terrible damping. I said it when I bought mine, came close to swapping it for an active car but price difference was silly, but they just have awful damping.
 
Do you mean they are too "hard" for the car to hunker down enough for good traction under acceleration?

They have taken a leaf from Audi's book sadly on damping and how to do it badly....

They have big wheels, low profile tyres and stiff suspension as in Germany with their roads that works fine. However with our pot hole ridden, weather and lorry damaged and badly repaired roads it doesn't and this is where high quality damping, as previously done well by BMW and Mercedes is even more important. This is where their clever but expensive electronic dampers come in, but sadly hardly anyone specs them and on the M cars they are not done well. Then add in 650bhp as most people acknowledge is where an M5/M6 sits and you have wheel spin, rear end bounce on the roads I alluded to and a corrupted ride. My F10 had a shocking ride on bad roads, I spotted it from the moment I took delivery but just put up with it, but it struggled from slow speeds to put the power down in the wet (mine was no M either) and used to unsettle at the rear on bumpy roads at speed, which was easy to deal with as the car had a long wheelbase so made correction easy. Most people probably don't drive their cars as hard as I do so will not expose it, but when pushing on the F10 can fall apart, though I believe in later models they made it better. SE models were better due to smaller wheels, bigger profile tyres and softer settings, but the compromise on the M-Sport is wrong. I'd rather had more body roll and damping than stiffer set up on road, it's better.
 
BMW need some lessons in suspension damping as with their big saloons they forgot that traction starts with damping and the M5/M6 and F10/F11 models have terrible damping. I said it when I bought mine, came close to swapping it for an active car but price difference was silly, but they just have awful damping.

Criticism of the F10 is not allowed I'm afraid.
 
The old girl scrubs up well :D

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I had an i8 for the day a while back and actually found the seats amazing.

Really, I found them to be just OK, the lack of lumbar support probably bothers me the most.

Just out of
interest, what did you think of the car? I know its not your sort of thing but I'm still impressed by it every time I drive it.
 
I want a 530e iPerformance next :p

I like the sound of that. I really want one of those fairly rare electric 3 series'. What were they called? ActiveHybrid 3 or something? Obviously I won't get one because I imagine the potential maintenance and repair costs when things start to break would be catastrophic.
 
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