Shots fired outside parliament - Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts

Ones the scum who did it tho so only 4 people and one scumbag.

What gets me is that out of all the places to attack he chose one of the most hardend places in london.
 
Again I challenge you to answer my question - how long did the entire event take place?

It felt like it was like a split second, was on roof of the sea life centre (court house building) overlooking the bridge when it happened. Immediately yanked inside and made to spend the next 3 hours inside the sea life centre making friends with an alligator with no staff/guests entering/leaving.
 
Ones the scum who did it tho so only 4 people and one scumbag.

What gets me is that out of all the places to attack he chose one of the most hardend places in london.

Dont forget some of those 40 injured will have life changing injuries not too mention mental trauma potentially.
 
I feel for all concerned apart from the obvious guy. However, are our police hesitating in situations like this for fear of being pulled over the coals? I do sometimes feel that our forces are working with one hand tied behind their back.
 
I feel for all concerned apart from the obvious guy. However, are our police hesitating in situations like this for fear of being pulled over the coals? I do sometimes feel that our forces are working with one hand tied behind their back.

Seriously? Guy comes out of nowhere and stabs a policeman and the other one drew his gun and shot him dead and you think they are holding back? Or do you think they should just shoot any Muslim looking person approaching the gates "just in case"?
 
No not at all, i am sure in the instance there was nothing he could do. However, I would hate think that he had a moment to hesitate not defend himself for fear of repurcussions. I mean I know that if i run at a police officer regardless of what i have on me, i would expect to be taken down, and outside the houses of parliament, by lethal force.

Ps sometimes there is nothing you can do, and i accept that. Living in in major city its something you just get on with, cannot let fear get to you, otherwise none of us would get on with our lives.
 
Not sure about that, I've never seen that gate at Parliament closed except in special events.
Could have changed in recent years but I remember it closed on some occasions, particularly when I was in a rush and had to wait on the pavement as the gates opened and a car drove in. There's a little pedestrian gaye next to it I seem to remember that is mostly open though
 
Scotland Yard's top anti-terror officer Mark Rowley confirms that five people have died and about 40 people were injured in the attack, including three police officers
 
Seriously? Guy comes out of nowhere and stabs a policeman and the other one drew his gun and shot him dead and you think they are holding back? Or do you think they should just shoot any Muslim looking person approaching the gates "just in case"?

Perhaps not applicable in this case as the officer who was stabbed was unarmed, so his colleague who shot the suspect would have given himself complete mental permission to shoot/kill the suspect.

However in other cases, i think it definitely does play a part, dare I say especially in cases of having to shoot young black men and the inevitable accusations of it being racist. Sometimes i think armed police might give a suspect too much of a chance to give up before shooting, to the point where it compromises them and puts them within reach of being attacked. Obviously we don't want police spraying and praying because a young black lad reaches for his wallet, but at the same time we don't want our police/public getting injured or killed because an armed officer hesitated for a moment.

It's a difficult role and one which i would never want. That much responsibility on your hands, whilst under the most pressure you have/will ever be under and you life on the line if you make one wrong choice, but your freedom and career on the line if you make another.
 
Police officer named as PC Keith Palmer, a member of the parliamentary and diplomatic protection command.
 
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