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I think I mentioned elsewhere - If electric vehicles were all that and diesel was such a problem, the military would have already developed über-fancy electric tanks by now!
When will you sell your diesel?
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And replacing them with...?
Why does nobody care about the central heating systems responsible for a THIRD of Central London NOX emissions?
Why has nobody pointed out that petrol cars are responsible for 7% of the Central London NOX emissions? Diesel cars are worse - but represent 11% in the same figures.
Petrol isn't a breathe easy utopia either which is why the ULEZ zone applies to them, too.
one step at a time kinda thing, bet they're going to crack on with other things soon but from a quick look diesel is the easiest one right now.
Quite a few of them are already electric or biofuel.
Which ones are pure electric rather than DIESEL electric?
https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/p...st-fully-electric-bus-routes-for-central-lond
Once they get rid of diesel buses they will start on commercial vehicles and taxis. Then diesel cars will most likely be banned, like they are in some European city centres.
Not sure about petrol since the emissions are no where near as harmful and they are getting cleaner.
Once they get rid of diesel buses they will start on commercial vehicles and taxis. Then diesel cars will most likely be banned, like they are in some European city centres.
Not sure about petrol since the emissions are no where near as harmful and they are getting cleaner.
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or dem 70's tastic coal/oil fired power stations running the country
Which European city centres can I not drive my diesel car in (But would be fine driving a petrol model in)?
TFL look looks very encouraging though - diesel buses and taxi's are responsible for more than twice as much NOX within London as private passenger cars.
Can't speak for all manufacturers, but MAN group have been heavily funding CNG powered vehicles for a number of years.
I believe they had/have a fleet running around one of the larger Swedish cities.
http://www.bus.man.eu/de/en/city-buses/man-lions-city-cng/overview/Overview.html
Electric motors tend to have fairly poor torque outputs. Not all that good for 60 tonne tanks...
Stuttgart has an Umwelt zone like most German cities. It controls access based on Euro Emissions standards. This is not a diesel ban. They intend to ban more cars next year on high pollution days but again, this is not a diesel ban - Euro 6 compliant diesels will be allowed access.
Paris also has a selective ban.
The biggest problem here is fear-mongering and assumption spread around like fact. At this rate the government need do nothing as the general public have already convinced themselves all diesel is banned anyway!
The electric motors they're putting in EVs have plenty of torque, and they deliver max torque from a standing start which would actually be perfect for a tank. E.g. a Nissan Leaf has 250 Nm of torque which is more than a Ford Focus, and it can put it down on demand.
The question about electric military vehicles is a weird one (it's nothing to do with electric vs diesel, it's about logistics and refuelling)
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Except the Focus has a multispeed gearbox....
The torque of a family car is very different to that of a larger vehicle
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top of the range tesla model S has nearly 900 ft-lb of torque
Aye and look at the range it has when utilising it's power. It also requires multiple motors to hit that level of torque from my recollection.
A top of the range Scania V8 has 2581 ft-lb of torque and emissions similar to a family hatchback huge service intervals and a proven driveline.
It'll be a good while before we see electric commercials be it trucks or buses , we're they viable they'd already be making inroads, they aren't.
Modern Diesel engines are not the big polluter these days, quite the opposite in fact.
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Bingo. That's why large vehicles use diesel..