Vehicle driven into people in Stockholm-Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts
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Also worth considering the perpetrators of these attacks in the west
I'm assuming a big whack of that "political" box is the single Breivik attack - I had a look on the linked website but couldn't find a breakdown of the data driving this chart. Ultimately, one Breivik-like attack has less of a cumulative impact on the psyche of people than repeated attacks like in France over the past couple of years, even though all events are abhorrent.
There's an attrition-like feel to the ongoing threat of Islamic fundamentalism in Europe.
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Doesn't change the fact you are MUCH less likely to die today from a terrorist attack.
That is a statistical fact and a mathematical probability, not an opinion or 'feeling'
The hysteria level show by many here needs to come down a few pegs, it's NOT proportionate to the threat!
I'm certainly not going to allow this tiny probability make me negatively judge normal decent Muslims and shame on anyone that does
I'll take solace in the fact that if a large lorry is driven at me by an islamist trying to impress his imaginary friend I'm a statistical anomaly.
I think you'd be better taking solace in the fact that the chances of it happening to you are minuscule and just getting on with your life.
Well done to the police in catching the scum bag. Now to get the helpers.
@C.R.A.Z.Y where is your data just for England?
A late edit there.
@C.R.A.Z.Y where is your data just for England?
A late edit there.
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Also, what stops an Islamist attack falling in to the politically motivated group?
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Will trump target Scania headquarters now?
Implying you think a targeted strike on a country breaking the Chemical Weapons Convention and gassing civilians including children is a bad thing?
What kind of crap is he spouting?
He's provided data to so support the assertion that terrorism is less likely on average to kill you today (and over the last decade) than in previous decades and as such we shan't be falling into mass hysteria, which seems to be becoming the norm recently in a certain section of society.
He's not apologising for terrorists actions, heck he's not even spouting anything particularly sensational, even "liberal lefty" organisations like the telegraph and World Economic Forum have reported the same thing.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/terrorism-in-europe-at-historical-high/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-now-than-in-the-1970s-and-safer-than-almost/
Deaths due to terrorism have declined significantly in Western Europe - you are less likely to die from a terrorist attack than in the past. Why? Well that's something that can be debated - are we getting better at foiling plots? Better at healing the injured? Is there less organisation? Are there less plots?
Perhaps these are things you can debate and write a post about, rather than playing buzzword bingo and attacking the poster.
It's also worth discussing the terror deaths worldwide chart that he posted. The number of deaths there have increased significantly in the last 10-15 years, but that doesn't really tell the whole story. When you look in more detail you get something more useful -
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/global-terrorism-index-increase/6947200
The majority of the increase is in five countries, Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan and Syria - three of which are failed states and two more states that most people have tried to steer clear of for a decade or more anyway.
Also worth considering the perpetrators of these attacks in the west
70% of deaths in the west are caused by "lone wolfs", with only 19% of those being Islamic related (although admittedly that does beg the question of how many of the non lone wolf attacks are perpetrated by organisations of various motivations - something to look into in more detail).
So perhaps before we get to the level of mass hysteria we should step back and put thing into perspective?
Yes, sure, i'm probably a terrorist sympathiser/apologist by you again because i'm not afraid to leave the house because of the big bad bogeyman, and i'm not falling prey to the aims of terrorists. But I hope this post will stand on it's own merit for those that aren't immediately playing buzzword bingo... Perhaps you'll even refute what I've posted rather than just call people names?
The same crap that you post, another apologist.
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I notice all these graphs and stats seem to stop 2014/2015.
Oh really, you people spout the same ****, it is not just a matter of people being killed is statistically very small, you think we don't know that? Are we not allowed to be worried about all the countries that these ******** are hitting and all the people that lose their lives because of the same ********?
This is not just about it being a small chance of being blown up, shot or stabbed etc by these ********, it is the fact that ours and various other countries way of life is gradually changing, because of these ********.
It needs to stop, by whatever means necessary.
It took two Atom bombs to stop the last lot of ******* (Japan), those people were not afraid to die because of their beliefs\cause.
We have the same problem now...
Aye, let the usual apologists keep throwing their graphs and stats around, i can easily put a stat up that shows out of all terrorism, Islamic terrorism has done a whole lot more than any other terror group in the past 100 years atleast.
Japan was easy compared to this though. How do you bomb a decentralized group?
Something does need to be done but until someone has an idea a bit more thought out all we have is platitudes.
Poor ******* me, you make me laugh. Does that mean all the allies in WW2 were monsters?
What would your solution be to stopping Japan in 1945? Would you apply that same approach now?
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I understand that, but like you say, something needs doing.
Don't let me stop you!
I assume you are aware that the christian Ugandan terrorist group 'The Lord's Resistance Army' has killed significantly more civilians than ISIS. But hey once again don't let facts and reality get in the way of your sweeping generalisation of Islam and Muslims
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BTW It is estimated that ISIS has killed approximately 33,000 civilians, so as you can see they have quite a long way to go to get too the numbers of Christian 'The Lord's Resistance Army' terrorist group
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