New Pound Coins

[h4rm0ny]

Well no, that sentence option was ended in 1998. However AFAIK high treason still stands and carries a life sentence and sleeping with the Queen's husband is still high treason and hasnt been superseded.

What if the Queen is a participant? And how is the act of sex defined? Or did the drafters of this law not consider threesomes and handjobs? If not, it is a very poorly written law, imo.

 

[Destination]

£350 million a week perhaps?

LOL superb!

 

[h4rm0ny]

I hardly use cash anymore, contactless cards + chip and pin FTW. Plus I use apps to pay for parking and bus tickets when required.

I travel to the US frequently and haven't used cash there either in the last couple of years. Card machines everywhere.

I travel to the USA frequently and was horrified at the lack of Chip and Pin. Plus it was routine for someone to give the waiter their card who would then walk off and deduct the given amount. The Americans would then write in the tip afterwards as well meaning the restaurant was charging the card even after they'd returned it. I was genuinely gobsmacked the first time I saw this. I understand chip and pin has recently become more of a thing but I haven't been to the USA since late last year so haven't seen any change myself, yet.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Yeah card security in the States is like something from the UK in the 90's! Never seen a chip and pin over there it's all signing receipts (where the cashier never even looks at the card to actually verify the sig is correct!) or as you say the waiter disappearing off with your card and you writing the tip on the receipt which they charge you for after you've gone!

 

[novaenough]

I don't think the new coins will work as well, as the old ones.

In what way?

 

[Hades]

I feel old. I remember pound notes being phased out in favour of coins. In fact I remember large pound notes being replaced by new fangled small pound notes.

 

[Greebo]

I feel old. I remember pound notes being phased out in favour of coins. In fact I remember large pound notes being replaced by new fangled small pound notes.

I remember large white five pound notes

 

[DaleTheWhale]

Exactly, this is just the kind of capers that went on at my school, we would never have dreamed of stealing from a shop or anything but cheating the systems in the school was another matter.

The future will be a far more boring place...

The machines at our school were pretty basic. My friend had a Harry Potter board game that had hundreds of coins, the machine accepted them as £1 for some reason (they were like thin plastic discs as well), never had so many free school lunches in my life.

 

[Em3bbs]

I travel to the USA frequently and was horrified at the lack of Chip and Pin. Plus it was routine for someone to give the waiter their card who would then walk off and deduct the given amount. The Americans would then write in the tip afterwards as well meaning the restaurant was charging the card even after they'd returned it. I was genuinely gobsmacked the first time I saw this. I understand chip and pin has recently become more of a thing but I haven't been to the USA since late last year so haven't seen any change myself, yet.

Pretty much all of the shops I've been to in the last year use chip and pin now, supermarkets, Macy's etc. But restaurants still use the receipt with the tip line on it although I check my bank statements and I've never had a problem with people putting fake tips on. I'm sure credit card companies would come down hard on businesses if they ever allowed that to happen.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

When I was in year 9, about 1993-4, there was a Somalian kid whose dad was a right crook. This kid used to bring in bags of fake pound coins and handed them out to everyone in an attempt to win friends. The tuck shop workers knew they were fakes, but the coke machine (yes, schools were allowed coke machines back then) didn't and my rucksack would weigh a ton carrying it home full of fizzy drinks. The staff didn't suspect anything, they just refilled the machine daily, and we'd go again. Eventually, it all came to an unhappy end when the engineer came to empty it and notified the headmistress that it was full of fake coins. They switched it off and put a fridge in the tuck shop. Spoilsports.

Quality

I'm about the same age as you - year 9 in 1992-3. During the school summer hols 1991 and 1992, I would go to France and bring back loads of half-franc coins. A half-franc was basically a French 5p. Stick these in the school's drinks machine and it would clock up as 20p i.e. 4 times the value! In 1993, only my sister went to France, so I gave her some British coins to have exchanged into half-francs. So I managed to get a 3rd year out of this, but sadly the machine got vandalised soon after, got replaced by a different model and my 'scheme' no longer worked lol

 

[Angilion]

Really? It was mentioned lots in 2012 when 800 old and archaic acts were removed from uk law and this was supposedly one of them

http://metro.co.uk/2012/04/04/scott...elax-in-york-as-archaic-laws-face-axe-375726/

Although I do note that the original law was that the Scotsman had to be carrying a bow and arrow.

Lots of things are mentioned that aren't true. It's the nature of urban myths that they're widely believed and it's the nature of modern media to be more concerned with page views than fact checking, especially on unimportant stories nobody could possibly sue them for.

For example, that Metro story claims that until 2012 it was a criminal offence to die in parliament. That's a garbled misunderstanding of the truth and it's obvious that nobody fact-checked anything before the story was printed. What's actually true is that a death in a royal palace (the houses of parliament are part of the palace of Westminster) falls under the jurisdiction of the royal coroner and thus the monarch directly and personally rather than the normal legal system. That's generally considered undesirable nowadays, so the official place of death is recorded as being somewhere else. It never was a criminal offence to die in parliament...but saying it was attracts views and who's going to sue the Metro over that silly claim?

The City of York has stated (in response to a Freedom Of Information request) that a search of all available records has resulted in no evidence of any such law ever existing.

There are many examples of people saying such a law existed, but none of anyone providing any evidence that it did. Not today, not in 2012, not in 1012, not at any point in time.

 

[steve5424]

I travel to the USA frequently and was horrified at the lack of Chip and Pin. Plus it was routine for someone to give the waiter their card who would then walk off and deduct the given amount. The Americans would then write in the tip afterwards as well meaning the restaurant was charging the card even after they'd returned it. I was genuinely gobsmacked the first time I saw this. I understand chip and pin has recently become more of a thing but I haven't been to the USA since late last year so haven't seen any change myself, yet.

I was in New York a couple of weeks ago and saw many times people ordering drinks in a bar and just handing over their cards to the bar staff to leave it behind the bar. There was actually a pile of cards by the till.

The wife and I couldn't believe it.

 

[Things change I've changed]

I'm still using a pound meter for electric in my place , fingers crossed the new ones will work with it or my landlord has to replace a lot of meters.

 

[Diddums]

When I was in year 9, about 1993-4, there was a Somalian kid whose dad was a right crook. This kid used to bring in bags of fake pound coins and handed them out to everyone in an attempt to win friends. The tuck shop workers knew they were fakes, but the coke machine (yes, schools were allowed coke machines back then) didn't and my rucksack would weigh a ton carrying it home full of fizzy drinks. The staff didn't suspect anything, they just refilled the machine daily, and we'd go again. Eventually, it all came to an unhappy end when the engineer came to empty it and notified the headmistress that it was full of fake coins. They switched it off and put a fridge in the tuck shop. Spoilsports.

In South Africa we had "ticky boxes" which were public phones. They used the old system of many clicks to dial a number and eventually we cottoned on that we could make free calls by making the ticks ourselves using the receiver lever. It was a bitch to do as we had to get the timing precisely spot on but practice made perfect. Of course mobile phones weren't out yet and there were only so many numbers we could call so after a month or so we lost interest and forgot about it.

A year or two later and South Africa exploded with the release of the Beepa, which was just a pager in fancy colours aimed more at the younger generation.

Anyway. A few months on and all the cool kids had these things and the teachers were going nuts and confiscating them when we remembered the phone trick. Myself and a few friends started collecting the numbers from everyone who had a Beepa and then we started calling. Every day. Leaving messages like "you forgot to put on clean underwear today - mom" and stuff lime that.

Suffice to say when these Beepas went off in class and the teacher made them stand up and share the message with everyone (as it was obviously more important than class), we caused quite a bit of embarrassment, until one day one of them caught me and gave me two black eyes


Good times.

 

[HazardO]

Got my first new £1 coin today, and it's a 2016 trial coin (not legal tender). One other person in my team had 2 new coins, both 2016 as well so it seems like Cambridge is a goldmine for the collectible trial coins at the moment. Can't see them being worth much more than £5 to collectors in the long run though, there's over 200,000 out there.

 

[XeNoN89]

Got my first new £1 coin today, and it's a 2016 trial coin (not legal tender). One other person in my team had 2 new coins, both 2016 as well so it seems like Cambridge is a goldmine for the collectible trial coins at the moment. Can't see them being worth much more than £5 to collectors in the long run though, there's over 200,000 out there.

Every single new pound coin I've seen so far has been 2016.

 

[HazardO]

Yeah it seems there's quite a few of them (over 600,000) and they are legal tender and not the same as the coins stamped "TRIAL". Still people have been apparently selling the 2016 coins on ebay for a fair markup..

 

[Psycho Sonny]

I wish we could just abolish physical currency. Apple/Android pay, contactless cards, it should be enough. It's 2017.

i agree it would solve more issues than it creates. cash in hand - gone. criminals - gone. everything would be traceable.

PDQ machines are not always rock solid and are inconvenient for those without a wired internet connection or great mobile signal. They also require a lot ag with PCI compliant and audit forms depending on how many machines your business has. The business is very lucrative for PDQ terminal leasers as they charge you a fixed amount for the machine, as well as a transaction fee.

As much as it would be nice to get rid of physical currency, there is a huge inconvenience associated with doing without and to be honest, physical currency is not that bad at all, despite how trendy it is to bash it.

If you dont want to use it, then you have that choice. Shouldnt matter to you if other people use physical currency.

everywhere already has a digital option. we just need to remove the physical option. so it's going to cost no more than what it currently does bar the transaction fees. again the government should get these abolished or regulated as it's in their interest to make it digital only as then there is a clear paper trail. nobody could avoid tax, etc.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

I wish we could just abolish physical currency. Apple/Android pay, contactless cards, it should be enough. It's 2017.

i agree it would solve more issues than it creates. cash in hand - gone. criminals - gone. everything would be traceable.

PDQ machines are not always rock solid and are inconvenient for those without a wired internet connection or great mobile signal. They also require a lot ag with PCI compliant and audit forms depending on how many machines your business has. The business is very lucrative for PDQ terminal leasers as they charge you a fixed amount for the machine, as well as a transaction fee.

As much as it would be nice to get rid of physical currency, there is a huge inconvenience associated with doing without and to be honest, physical currency is not that bad at all, despite how trendy it is to bash it.

If you dont want to use it, then you have that choice. Shouldnt matter to you if other people use physical currency.

everywhere already has a digital option. we just need to remove the physical option. so it's going to cost no more than what it currently does bar the transaction fees. again the government should get these abolished or regulated as it's in their interest to make it digital only as then there is a clear paper trail. nobody could avoid tax, etc.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

everywhere already has a digital option. we just need to remove the physical option. so it's going to cost no more than what it currently does bar the transaction fees. again the government should get these abolished or regulated as it's in their interest to make it digital only as then there is a clear paper trail. nobody could avoid tax, etc.

Everywhere has a digital option but they can have their own problems.

Also these transaction fees are there BECAUSE of regulations and restrictions linked with security and compliance. The liability for things that go wrong with these card transactions (virtual or not) are passed on to companies who lease out merchant accounts and terminals (the liability use to lie with the banks i believe?) who charge a fee on each transaction to make up the cost and also make money on top of it.

There are many small business that dont use PDQs because people pay mainly by cash and it wouldn't be worth the costs and effort involved in getting a PDQ machine and applying to become PCI DSS compliant. These businesses still pay tax even though they recieve cash. At this point in time cash has its uses and the costs of switching coins and coin slots (lol?) is a minor one by comparison.