NK vs USA

Some kind of solar powered assassination drone is what's needed. I'm off to my shed to start developing one. If I Prime a DJI today I reckon I could finish it by Sunday.
 
Who knows what Trump thinks NK can do if he is listening to people like Alex Jones and his ilk, people in that scene seem to think NK have cobalt atomic bombs
 
NK doesn't stand a chance against the US and its now looking like China has decided that its ties to the US are more important than keeping the NK regime in power so it wouldn't surprise me if things change pretty soon. The real issue is South Korea though. I get the feeling that the US wants to launch pre-emptive strikes against NK but SK is apposed to it as the risk to Seoul is high should war break out.
 
I don't think NK is the threat some people tout. Would interesting to have a poll on this thread but i cant imagine how you could lay out the answers.

Maybe:

Is North Korea a threat if war broke out?

-Not a threat to anyone
-threat to SK
-threat to east Asia
-global threat
 
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Avenged7Fold said:
I don't think NK is the threat some people tout. Would interesting to have a poll on this thread but i cant imagine how you could lay out the answers.

Maybe:

Is North Korea a threat if war broke out?

-Not a threat to anyone
-threat to SK
-threat to east Asia
-global threat
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That completely depends on their long range weapons capability doesn't it? Which they're intent on progressing, so I'd argue they are a global threat, if not now then whenever they get to the stage where they could theoretically launch a nuke at an enemy state.
 
if you believe their three stage satellite rocket will deliver a nuke across the world without being intercepted, then you would say that they are a global threat. I personally think that if war broke out, they would be a threat mainly to the well being of SK. Indirectly China's economy would take a blow after the regime falls due to the influx of immigrants. Maybe China will capitalise on a war torn Korea in the aftermath by investing and taking advantage of what will essentially be slave labour in terms of cost, turning the reborn NK into a manufacturing industrial state.
 
Dis86 said:
Avenged, your article basically states that they can't do diddly against high altitude stealth. Which America has...has lots of infact.
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They have limited options to counter but on the flipside the terrain and years of building defensive infrastructure reduces their vulnerability to it compared to some other countries.

Ultimately it looks like China will do something.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
I don't think NK is the threat some people tout. Would interesting to have a poll on this thread but i cant imagine how you could lay out the answers.

Maybe:

Is North Korea a threat if war broke out?

-Not a threat to anyone
-threat to SK
-threat to east Asia
-global threat
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They are a massive threat to South Korea (could easily bombard Seoul), and a significant threat to Japan (they have plenty of missiles that can reach that far in theory)

That's about it really
 
XeNoN89 said:
They are a massive threat to South Korea (could easily bombard Seoul), and a significant threat to Japan (they have plenty of missiles that can reach that far in theory)

That's about it really
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Can't remember numbers off the top of my head but IIRC only 3% of their artillery can hit Seoul though there are something like 100,000 SK civilians in range.
 
The costliness of a ground campaign depends greatly on the will of the DPRK soldier. They are loyal to the state now, but is that because thats how you keep you and your family alive ? If fear of death in a war exceeds fear of the regime, what happens then ?
 
America is not invading north Korea. They might bomb some strategic targets, try to force the army and population to revolt but no way soldiers/marines whatever.

I just read they are planning a nuclear test, according to satellite data. Fun times.

Source: i was br20 cr5 in planetside, rank 10 on many call of duties and beat civ 5 on prince.
 
The longer we leave this, the more their artillery degrades and their huge stockpile of soviet weaponry become useless. They estimate that something like 20% of their shells are useless. The longer we wait, the easier it will be to launch a foot and air attack. Obviously the time we wait needs to be balanced with time spent developing their missile programs.

The biggest factor that is often overlooked is NK peoples loyalty and their relation to China.

For years China has been their bigger brother nearby and its power has been marketed to the NK people by the NK regime. It has supported them via food, money and technology. The people know their relationship to China and how pivotal its role is. If the people no longer received support and found that China will not be fighting side by side with NK, the loyalty to the regime wont stand beyond doubt of its fall. At this point people will defect as the consequences of defecting will be lower that the consequences of fighting for NK.
 
This isn't NK's first nuke test though?

Worst case senario, NK fire missile at US ship, US retaliate with massive strike on key NK targets such as silos, communications, airfields. Rodman gets sent in via chopper. All settles down after that.
 
I think the chinese are of sick North Korea, they can let the americans do the hard work then install a 'peace keeping force' of their own and transition to a puppet government of their own making

they get the buffer zone still of NK, but they call the shots, can use their economy to bring nk into the modern age , big infrastructure projcts etc and get a handy line of business with direct ties to south korea as there is no blockages in the way

borders open , families are reunited lots of people are pictured happy and smiling and china looks great

trump looks good at home and everybody is a winner (except fat kim and his hangers on)
 
I would have though if the US strike first they would plan and target all means of hitting SK with anything. Artillery/Missile Silos etc first and foremost. Then level any strategic command centres. Apparently the main problem would be the tunnel systems under Pyongyang.

Or.. How about this? Get someone to infiltrate the Nuke silo and put an override in the ICBM. When its launched it could be redirected to exactly where Kim Jong Un is sitting.. :D
 
ZXSpectrum said:
I would have though if the US strike first they would plan and target all means of hitting SK with anything. Artillery/Missile Silos etc first and foremost. Then level any strategic command centres. Apparently the main problem would be the tunnel systems under Pyongyang.

Or.. How about this? Get someone to infiltrate the Nuke silo and put an override in the ICBM. When its launched it could be redirected to exactly where Kim Jong Un is sitting.. :D
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The US couldn't do all that in the hour or two required. Even after amassing virtually every aircraft, ship and artillery system it owns within range which itself would make their intentions clear and possibly cause the DPRK to launch a premptive strike on South Korean population centers.
 
Tell me why the US military is supposedly so powerful, a floating army no less. Both sides have aircraft, missiles, tanks, weapons and man power. It has been shown that they couldn't really beat a rag tag guerrilla army such as the Taliban. So what makes them think they can beat NK. Pure technology capabilities I assume, whoever takes out key installations first will have the advantage?

Maybe satellites will play a key role, do NK have any satellites, if so can they be disabled, maybe SK will join in a fight?

I really know next to nothing about military stuff, capabilities, strategies etc, but the US seem confident that they can easily win. But why is that so, is this gung-ho foolishness or pure technology and will power etc.
 
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