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Official RX580,RX570,RX560 and RX550 series review thread

Doom112 said:
I am not insulting AMD but why AMD you put effort even to make this 5XX series? It is called wasting your limited resources. 5XX should have not existed.
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They introduced a 5xx series to satisfy OEM's (Dell, HP et el) who want 'new' products on their marketing materials each year. It also gives AMD a chance to show off gains from driver revisions and process improvements plus it gives them free publicity for a couple of days.
 
Kaapstad said:
All you can ask of a card is for it to be faster than its rivals from NVidia and this is something the RX580 does when compared to the GTX 1060.:)
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Yes i agree that is true and it is faster than the GTX 1060, half the time is snapping at the GTX 1070 heels. but there is no getting away from the fact that it is a renamed RX480. :)
 
Pretty much sums it up from the Anandtech site

"As for the competitive landscape then, AMD’s situation has improved, though I fear by not enough. Across the full spread of games in our benchmark suite, the RX 580 and GTX 1060 6GB change lead a few different times, so the RX 580 is able to best NVIDIA’s best in absolute performance in the right games. The problem for AMD is that those games appear to be too few; as a result the RX 580 trails the GTX 1060 by an average of 7% at both 1080p and 1440p. AMD has narrowed the gap somewhat – this was an 11% deficit with the RX 480 – but not by enough. And coupled with AMD’s worse power efficiency, this puts AMD in a tough spot. The biggest challenge right now is that GTX 1060 prices have come down to the same $229 spot just in time for the RX 500 series launch, so AMD doesn’t have a consistent price advantage. That’s the one thing AMD can change, and it’s likely to be where they need to look next."
 
Nate75 said:
Pretty much sums it up from the Anandtech site

"As for the competitive landscape then, AMD’s situation has improved, though I fear by not enough. Across the full spread of games in our benchmark suite, the RX 580 and GTX 1060 6GB change lead a few different times, so the RX 580 is able to best NVIDIA’s best in absolute performance in the right games. The problem for AMD is that those games appear to be too few; as a result the RX 580 trails the GTX 1060 by an average of 7% at both 1080p and 1440p. AMD has narrowed the gap somewhat – this was an 11% deficit with the RX 480 – but not by enough. And coupled with AMD’s worse power efficiency, this puts AMD in a tough spot. The biggest challenge right now is that GTX 1060 prices have come down to the same $229 spot just in time for the RX 500 series launch, so AMD doesn’t have a consistent price advantage. That’s the one thing AMD can change, and it’s likely to be where they need to look next."
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Only if you ignore all the DX12 and Vulkan results, Anand...
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
OP updated.



You say that but this was interesting:

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeon-RX-580-8G-Grafikkarte-265939/News/AMD-Polaris-14LPP-Samsung-1225917/&edit-text=

AMD is actually second sourcing Polaris at Samsung too,so they are now getting two fabs to make GPUs for the Polaris line.
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I would be very happy to be proved wrong. Card prices have gone nuts world wide. With Ryzen, I was expecting that they would do the same again (maybe) with the 500 series and start slogging prices down
 
Scougar said:
I would be very happy to be proved wrong. Card prices have gone nuts world wide. With Ryzen, I was expecting that they would do the same again (maybe) with the 500 series and start slogging prices down
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Interestingly enough there is a new GPU called Polaris 12 being used for the RX550,and there seems to be zero reviews for that - if it had the same video decode bits as the other Polaris GPUs,it would be the cheapest HTPC card out there now which supports newer feature sets.
 
Nate75 said:
Pretty much sums it up from the Anandtech site

"As for the competitive landscape then, AMD’s situation has improved, though I fear by not enough. Across the full spread of games in our benchmark suite, the RX 580 and GTX 1060 6GB change lead a few different times, so the RX 580 is able to best NVIDIA’s best in absolute performance in the right games. The problem for AMD is that those games appear to be too few; as a result the RX 580 trails the GTX 1060 by an average of 7% at both 1080p and 1440p. AMD has narrowed the gap somewhat – this was an 11% deficit with the RX 480 – but not by enough. And coupled with AMD’s worse power efficiency, this puts AMD in a tough spot. The biggest challenge right now is that GTX 1060 prices have come down to the same $229 spot just in time for the RX 500 series launch, so AMD doesn’t have a consistent price advantage. That’s the one thing AMD can change, and it’s likely to be where they need to look next."
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or Hardware Cannucks who say this. Anand's game suite is biased towards Nvidia where as the Cannucks test a lot more games with bias towards both companies equally. Where loads of varied games are tested along with Dx12 and Vulkan the Rx580 looks like a far better card.

The true impact of those new frequencies upon raw performance data is pretty significant: there’s a delta between the RX 480 and RX 580 that fluctuates from 5% to 10% and points between. Add in a card such as the Nitro+ and you’re looking at 7-13% in averages and the lowest 1% of framerates depending on the title being tested. While that might not seem like much, the RX 480 was already riding high after some key driver releases and this update pushes AMD even further ahead of the GTX 1060 6GB. From my perspective, NVIDIA needs to enact some quick price cuts before their mid-tier darling gets overwhelmed. As it stands right now, there isn’t a single scenario wherein I’d recommend the 1060 over the RX 580, especially with products like XFX’s RX580 GTS XXX Edition sitting at about $240.
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Why not just buy an 480, overclock it, and save £30? There will probably be bigger savings to be had once the 400s are on clearance. That is the fundamental problem with these cards.
 
Scougar said:
I would be very happy to be proved wrong. Card prices have gone nuts world wide. With Ryzen, I was expecting that they would do the same again (maybe) with the 500 series and start slogging prices down
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Thats nowt, RAM pricing has doubled in two years, late 2015 16GB DDR3 2400Mhz cost me £80 from here and they weren't the cheapest, try and get 16GB of DDR4 for less than £150 now...
 
TheRealDeal said:
or Hardware Cannucks who say this. Anand's game suite is biased towards Nvidia where as the Cannucks test a lot more games with bias towards both companies equally.
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Its sad but these days you have to be very careful about which reviewer you go to if what you want is a truthful and balanced review, a lot of those who should be are anything but.

humbug said:
You have to laugh at the state of mainstream reviewers these days.
If you were to look at just this review with the few games they tested you would think the performance is really bad.

https://techreport.com/review/31754/amd-radeon-rx-580-and-radeon-rx-570-graphics-cards-reviewed



If you were to look at just this review you would think the performance was very good, often almost matching the GTX 1070, while sometimes not quite as fast as the GTX 1060, the latter would be the same games Techreport used, the only ones Techreport used.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru.../75127-amd-rx-580-8gb-performance-review.html

Its pathetic!
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Propably one of the most pointless releases ever in gpu history lol I guess amds gpu unit tries to earn that rebrandeon name desperately. What a joke ..
 
Just can't help thing GDDR5X should have been used , could have charged more then the 1060 and less then the 1070, maybe 330-40 mark and still be in the green .

570 could have run 8gbs speed
 
Well, I guess the purpose of this launch, as has been increasingly common with both companies over the last several years, is to simply keep things ticking over. It does that, but nothing else. Roll on Vega.
 
It does seem a nice little revision but I really wouldn't buy any card based on dx12 given that it doesn't really exist yet. Only 3 dx12 only games are out there and dx11 isn't inferior in the few games that give you a choice of both.

By the time dx12 becomes mainstream it won't be much use having 14 fps out of a 580 rather than 9fps from a 1060.
 
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