Explosion in Dortmund...

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:24

mid_gen said:
As for the link, I thought all muslims supported the terrorists? That's what the Mail and co lead us to believe anyway. Is it perhaps true that most Muslims are just normal, moderate human beings happy going about their life without bothering anyone?

why are you aiming that question at me?

see this post re: Crazy's earlier straw man:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30722622/

Yas786 · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:36

dowie said:
complains about people generalising about a religion

generalises about another religion

Fun isn't it?? It's ok for others to generalise about a religion but oh noesss when a Muslim does it...it's just not on is it??

It's quite hilarious

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:38

yes it was a bit hypocritical of you...

C.R.A.Z.Y · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:40

You implied that more than a minority of Muslims support terrorist activity's (without any evidence I might add)
I simply pointed out that the polls you claim to base this position on should be taken with a grain of salt.
I'm suggesting that many of these polls conducted by right wing media are not very trust worthy as much of this media has been shown to be disingenuous at best and flat-out liers at worse (I provided evidence for this position)

Show me a poll or some research done by a credible source (Oxford, Stanford, Harvard, Cambridge ..etc or PROPER scientists) then I'll take the time to read it.
If however the best you have got is some mickey mouse poll conducted by Fox News, Sky, Daily Mail, Daily Express, Breitbart, Infowars ..etc then I'm not going to bother wasting my time reading it!

dowie said:
yes it was a bit hypocritical of you...

Says the man guilty of the exact thing :rolleyes:

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:42

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Says the man guilty of the exact thing

where?

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 13:47

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
You implied that more than a minority of Muslims support terrorist activity's (without any evidence I might add)
I simply pointed out that the polls you claim to base this position on should be taken with a grain of salt.
I'm suggesting that many of these polls conducted by right wing media are not very trust worthy as much of this media has been shown to be disingenuous at best and flat-out liers at worse (I provided evidence for this position)

firstly I didn't make that implication (it is a significant minority rather than the tiny minority you're claiming) and secondly I didn't refer to right wing media - you simply attacked a straw man there - this is the post I made:

dowie said:
there are surveys re: the views of muslims in different countries re: terror attacks - probably a bit off topic to go into here but they're not exactly reflective of the typical apologist narrative that it is just some tiny tiny minority that support terror attacks

you can go and see say pew surveys yourself if you like as this is, as I mentioned before, rather off topic

Psycho Sonny · 21 Apr 2017 at 14:39

Yas786 said:
Fun isn't it?? It's ok for others to generalise about a religion but oh noesss when a Muslim does it...it's just not on is it??

It's quite hilarious

ironic not hilarious

sneakysnail · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:04

Any 1 else feel like the nutjob behind this got his plan from The Taking of Pelham 123 remake? Seems like the guy had seen to many Hollywood movies to come up with a plan like that anyway.

Craterloads · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:13

Amazing, even after finding out the culprit still pages upon pages of islam talk.

Perhaps its time for the mods to clear up the thread?

Avenged7Fold · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:13

Craterloads said:
Amazing, even after finding out the culprit still pages upon pages of islam talk.

Perhaps its time for the mods to clear up the thread?

IKR?

Even when the culprit is proven to be someone else, some cant let it go. When any event happens, the usual crowd love spouting 'religion of peace'. half the time it is not even Islam related, so as much as this crowd love to joke about no speculation title change, threads like these reinforce why there is little use speculating and assuming. Happened in Canadian mosque shooting thread and a bunch of others too.

If people are that desperate for a Muslim bash, at least go to the relevant threads...

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:16

would be better if you cite the posts in question tbh..

Boycey0211 · 21 Apr 2017 at 17:34

dowie said:
would be better if you cite the posts in question tbh..

It starts on page 3 and continues on and off through most of the thread. This is one of the shorter threads and it'd still take a significant amount of time quoting them all.

VincentHanna · 21 Apr 2017 at 17:50

Arazi said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39580594

According to that link it is an Islamist.

And yes, let's all crack on whilst scumbags are now placing nail bombs in coach furniture, yeah lets just crack, deflect and defend tactic?

IronWarrior said:
Now people, please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts, we all know it was an other Amish terrorist again, the police holding a suspect with "islamist links" is fake news.

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Could have taken ill at the wheel, there's nothing to link this to religious lunatics.

Dicehunter said:
But but it was a peaceful bomb, They only wanted to peacefully murder people very peacefully to show how peaceful they are by peacefully trying to end lives.

So peaceful...............................

AndyCroft1982 said:
Reports coming in that a bomb may have been found at an exit at the football stadium. Barely anything is being reported about this attack on the news since the first attack. Maybe they are worried that people might start to realise that the religion of peace might not be the beloved religion of peace after all ?

Malevolence said:

Participant said:
The letters not being left by Islamists still doesn't make it unlikely that Islamists carried out the attack. Based purely on the article's wording, it doesn't at all state that it's unlikely that the attack was carried out by radical Islamists.

Third parties with their own agendas claiming xyz still doesn't mean that the article says it's unlikely.

If you think that semantics and a minor detail, then you're probably not built to paraphrase news articles.

Dicehunter said:
To me this smells of the usual loony lefties trying to cover it up and place blame elsewhere with their sick obsession of getting as much islam into the west as possible, A right winger wouldn't bomb some place and then say "Hey I'm a right winger", That would be counter productive.

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 17:51

Boycey0211 said:
It starts on page 3 and continues on and off through most of the thread. This is one of the shorter threads and it'd still take a significant amount of time quoting them all.

I wasn't questioning the existence of such posts, I can see where I think it starts too - I meant that the other poster should be specific in which posts he's referring to as some are simply responses to others with clear statements that the conversation isn't too relevant to the thread

Boycey0211 · 21 Apr 2017 at 17:55

dowie said:
I wasn't questioning the existence of such posts, I can see where I think it starts too - I meant that the other poster should be specific in which posts he's referring to as some are simply responses to others with clear statements that the conversation isn't too relevant to the thread

In this case I don't think he has to be specific, its black and white who has an axe to grind, you can see it live in the other thread. He's replied anyway so that sums it all up.

dowie · 21 Apr 2017 at 18:01

That is another poster FWIW - yup I can see there are some obvious posts but it still isn't completely clear what is included and what isn't by different people.

datalol-jack · 21 Apr 2017 at 18:09

One thing I do want to know: does Arazi have other hobbies?

Freakbro · 22 Apr 2017 at 10:25

dowie said:
or rather still a figure picked out of thin air

It was a bit of an oblique reference to the time Another member on here was arguing against me that 1% of muslims being terrorists wasn't a minority

Next time don't use that word-Schizo

Orionaut · 22 Apr 2017 at 10:36

In WW2. what percentage of Germans were fire breathing, Jew burning, Nazis intent on world domination?

At what percentage of an identifiable group are a subgroup, who are clearly dangerous, do you become compelled to regard the whole identifiable group as dangerous?

Freakbro · 22 Apr 2017 at 10:38

Orionaut said:
In WW2. what percentage of Germans were fire breathing, Jew burning, Nazis intent on world domination?

At what percentage of an identifiable group are a subgroup, who are clearly dangerous, do you become compelled to regard the whole identifiable group as dangerous?

I have no idea, do you want to try and convince me 1% of a total isn't a minority too? Which was what was being discussed at the time