Famous men who pretend to be women

[Angilion]

Watch the vid mate its all explained in there.

So you can't provide me with any sources. I expected that, but I gave you the opportunity openly and without any conditions.

Many things are "explained" in videos on the net. Some of them are true. Some of them are partly true. Some of them are biased interpretations of selected parts of pieces of truth. Some of them are lies. The fact that someone has made a video is not evidence that it is true.

 

[Angilion]

I'm not trolling.

I have an Msc and I got a grade B in my biology A-level so I know something about human physiology.

And I can read, so I know something about human physiology too. Whoopy do.

I will try to explain this to you in laymans terms.

Perhaps you could try to provide some evidence?

It is a proven anatomical difference between men and women.

Except that it isn't.

The hip inflection point higher than the belly button in women because of the pelvic shape of women, which is specifically designed for childbirth. This is not something open to variance. It obeys the golden ratio. Just as all men have a penis and all women have a vagina.

The golden ratio is 1.618. What the hell are you talking about? I think you're just making false appeals to authority and hoping nobody will check anything.

The point at which a person's abdomen is narrowest (which is what you're actually talking about) is open to variance. You would have a point if you were talking about pelvic shape, but you aren't (despite your claims to be). If you had a 3D scan of the pelvic area of her skeleton, you could make some claims. You don't. Even with pelvic bone shape, there is still a considerable degree of variance.

Incidentally, the narrowest point of my abdomen is above my belly button. I've just had a look. Since I have all the sexual organs and characteristics of a man and none of a woman, I can confidently say that I am unambiguously male. Your attempt to redefine sex as the position of the narrowest part of a person's abdomen is pointless and silly.

This is the hip inflection point of a thick set afro-american woman.

This is the hip inflection point in an an afro american man.

The person in the second pic has a lot more flesh on their abdomen. Their knickers are pulling it in somewhat, so you're counting the width of their knickers as proof that they're a man.

There are other anatomical differences including the head to shoulder width ratio and the head to height ratio, as well as the shoulder width to hop width ratio.

Which are tendencies, not absolutes. You may as well declare that everyone over 6 feet tall is male.

They all indicate that Serena is a man. If the truth is too scary for you, so be it.

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Blah blah blah.

 

[Krisali]

Successful female athletes have often had their accomplishments diminished by attacks on their femininity, so nothing new here. Of course there are some real cases where top female athletes were born with both sets of genitalia and the parents chose the female gender at birth and naturally these individuals would have more testosterone than the average female. Does OP really believe that video?

 

[Angilion]

Successful female athletes have often had their accomplishments diminished by attacks on their femininity, so nothing new here. Of course there are some real cases where top female athletes were born with both sets of genitalia and the parents chose the female gender at birth and naturally these individuals would have more testosterone than the average female. Does OP really believe that video?

It would be interesting to have hard evidence of to what extent elevated testosterone levels improve athletic performance in women. Apparently there isn't any. In the case of women with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome it wouldn't matter anyway because they're insenstive to androgens.

Athletic bodies don't do sex testing any more, anyway. They do testosterone level testing, except for women with CAIS. It's not perfect, but it avoids the difficult question of exactly how to define a person's sex.

 

[dowie]

Dude those two pictures are taken from very side on top down angles, and still they show that the hip inclination point is below the belly button proving he is a man.

LOOK HIM IN THE EYE!!!!

I'm not trolling.

I have an Msc and I got a grade B in my biology A-level so I know something about human physiology.

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There are other anatomical differences including the head to shoulder width ratio and the head to height ratio, as well as the shoulder width to hop width ratio.

They all indicate that Serena is a man. If the truth is too scary for you, so be it.

@oulton

I know it is a few years on but some new information has been revealed thus the thread bump - she's pregnant:

In light of this new evidence could you perhaps explain whether you've changed your mind about her being a man or given the academic qualifications you cite above could you perhaps explain how a man could get pregnant?

 

[Woden]

@oulton

I know it is a few years on but some new information has been revealed thus the thread bump - she's pregnant:

In light of this new evidence could you perhaps explain whether you've changed your mind about her being a man or given the academic qualifications you cite above could you perhaps explain how a man could get pregnant?

Men give birth to boys and women give birth to girls.

 

[Destination]

Men give birth to boys and women give birth to girls.

I don't think even the bible goes as far as to twist reality that much, lol.

 

[Sankari]

Forget about Serena Williams, I'm genuinely troubled by this:

 

[robgmun]

Forget about Serena Williams, I'm genuinely troubled by this:

Yeah, that's actually alarming

 

[Diddums]

wat

 

[Derek W]

Plot Twist, OP is a woman pretending to be a man!

 

[dowie]

Forget about Serena Williams, I'm genuinely troubled by this:

yup - while things like the 800m intersex 'female' sprinters at the Olympics who took the first three places are an area of controversy a literal biological man, not just someone who happens to be intersex and a choice was forced for medical reasons, but a biological man who desires to be a woman gets to enter MMA matches against biological women while having the inherent physical advantage that brings???? That is pretty messed up.

 

[Sankari]

Yeah, that's actually alarming

yup - while things like the 800m intersex 'female' sprinters at the Olympics who took the first three places are an area of controversy a literal biological man, not just someone who happens to be intersex and a choice was forced for medical reasons, but a biological man who desires to be a woman gets to enter MMA matches against biological women while having the inherent physical advantage that brings???? That is pretty messed up.

Just reading this makes me feel sick:

During Fox's fight against Tamikka Brents, Brents suffered a concussion, an orbital bone fracture, and seven staples to the head in the 1st round.

After her loss, Brents took to social media to convey her thoughts on the experience of fighting Fox:

“I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not because I’m not a doctor. I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right,” she stated.

“Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn’t move at all in Fox’s clinch…”

All that damage in the first ******* round.

 

[Uther]

Yeah that's messed up.

 

[Nasher]

Yes there are things you just cant change, like the fact the male body has much higher bone and muscle density. You can stick a wig on and chop the fella off, but you can't change DNA and decades of growth.

They need to stop bowing down to this nonsense PCness in sports, because it's basically allowing people to "cheat".

 

[Narj]

How about those born with the defining characteristics of one sex but with intersex chromosomes? Can you tell there's something not right by sniffing their pheromones or something?

 

[Sankari]

How about those born with the defining characteristics of one sex but with intersex chromosomes? Can you tell there's something not right by sniffing their pheromones or something?

They're still either one gender or another.

 

[Narj]

They're still either one gender or another.

Oh I'm not one of those people who shouts about there being 1,761 genders or whatever. Just pointing out that there are some biologically confusing situations out there.

 

[Kreeeee]

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[Scrutinize]

In sports, certainly with females and where there appears to be enhanced male muscular physiology, the much more obvious answer is Steroid/HGH.

Low doses of Anavar + HGH would present as the Williams physique and when accounting for their natural genetic build. Given the awareness of performance enhancing substances in sports has become more apparent, certainly since this thread was originally posted, even in tennis seems a lot more logical and in-light of new evidence.

As for the MMA fight, it was somewhat contrived as the agreement to fight had some significant financial incentives. It also proved a point that a TG Male does not equal a female in competition regardless of what the SJWs try to propagate.