Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting

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ubersonic said:
Never mind the cost think of the social effect, we are already struggling as a nation because Blair convinced an entire generation that going to university to do waster courses was cooler than learning an actual skill/trade, the result is loads of people flipping burgers who have a degree but a colossal shortage of skilled workers/tradesmen, to the point where our country is completely dependant on foreign labour.
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So the solution instead is the same but have these people x amount in debt at the same time?
 
Yep, you look at the most popular uni courses and they are professions where supply out-strips demand. So only the cream of the crop ever get any where with it. Or are something irrelevant (makup is 3rd most popular ffs).

Not enough are doing degrees in things we have a shortage of, like engineering. People in those subjects generally skip uni and go straight in to work, learning on the job.
 
Whilst I don't mind quite a few of those policies - I recognise to deliver any of that needs a new credit card. These money raising policies aren't going to cover the costs in that manifesto and that comes back again to trusting Labour with the economy
 
ubersonic said:
Never mind the cost think of the social effect, we are already struggling as a nation because Blair convinced an entire generation that going to university to do waster courses was cooler than learning an actual skill/trade, the result is loads of people flipping burgers who have a degree but a colossal shortage of skilled workers/tradesmen, to the point where our country is completely dependant on foreign labour.
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Thats pretty much what i meant when i wrote this;

nick.lidgett said:
All well and good if its limited to STEM subjects but I don't feel happy about tax payers subsidizing someone with a head full of magic to spend 3 or more years on gender studies or art
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jimjamuk said:
Whilst I don't mind quite a few of those policies - I recognise to deliver any of that needs a new credit card. These money raising policies aren't going to cover the costs in that manifesto and that comes back again to trusting Labour with the economy
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They can't do much worse economically than the Conservatives have done over the past five years.
 
jimjamuk said:
Whilst I don't mind quite a few of those policies - I recognise to deliver any of that needs a new credit card. These money raising policies aren't going to cover the costs in that manifesto and that comes back again to trusting Labour with the economy
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Plenty of people have short memories, as long as they keep ring fencing pensions, making promises about soft targets like the NHS, Schools and Police people will soon forget.

Now with then talking about scrapping Uni fees they are trying to nab the younger voters and reducing the age of voting to 16.

Also all the talk about re nationalising things will appeal to a good few UKIP voters.
 
ots3go said:
They can't do much worse economically than the Conservatives have done over the past five years.
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Well you say that but we will be talking about the same thing with the Conservatives picking up the bill again and cutting back to try to make things meet if Labour got back in.

On the economy I don't have many issues with the rate of growth etc over the last few years - policy wise I do have some problems but you cant pick and choose everything
 
There's been some initial analysis performed on Labour's plan to increase taxes for those earning in excess of £80,000. Couple this with pre-manifesto statements to return the higher rate level of tax to 50%, this introduces at effective rate of tax of 75% for earnings between £100,000 and £123,000, before falling back to 'just' 50%.

Someone needs to explain the Laffer Curve to McDonnell and Corbyn. And also give them a history book on the Wilson / Callaghan era.
 
darkgen said:
Unprepared for a manifesto, you would assume he had significant input in to?
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Its not finallised, its draft. Today is the day they are all meeting to decide what goes into the final manifesto. I wouldnt want to talk about something which might not make the final draft.
 
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