Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting

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[Hovis tv advert theme tune] When I were a lad in the early 1990s, UK based uni students had no tuition fees and even got a grant, on top of optional Student Loans. How things have changed![/Hovis tv advert theme tune]
 
fez said:
Industries are getting more complex and competitive all the time so the last thing we want is vital services run badly by the government.
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Evidence?

I hardly step on my platform and decide which of the many competitive innovative private rail operators should get my business for a trip into town.

Similar with privatised energy companies, the only difference appears to be which billing company to use in the energy sector and they have all learnt from the advent of mobile operators to make up insanely complex ever changing non comparative tariffs...
 
Tefal said:
responsibility over others is more complicated/important than responsibility of yourself?

and so requires a more mature mindset?
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I propose a maximum voting age then, say 55. After which I believe people have too much life experience, become jaded, and vote askew. You'll find that most people vote with their own interests at the forefront. Not for the greater good.. I trust a 16 year old as much as I trust a 60 year old. A 16 year old has a lot more to vote for, and a fair bit more to lose..
 
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Roar87 said:
This is broadly the current standard of left wing debate though, if they even debate at all, typically it's just dismissing your opponents views and calling them Nazi's.
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You haven't been here long enough to really comment. The forum has mellowed a lot, but it's still solidly right wing. Stating that has nothing to do with the quality of debate. It's simply a fact.
 
benneh said:
You haven't been here long enough to really comment. The forum has mellowed a lot, but it's still solidly right wing. Stating that has nothing to do with the quality of debate. It's simply a fact.
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This forum seems fairly balanced, if you want right wing go to bodybuilding.com
 
UTmaniac said:
[Hovis tv advert theme tune] When I were a lad in the early 1990s, UK based uni students had no tuition fees and even got a grant, on top of optional Student Loans. How things have changed![/Hovis tv advert theme tune]
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Yeah but a lot fewer people went to university and so the system was a lot more affordable. Now you can spend 3 years at university and come out unemployable means that university education as a whole has been grossly devalued. Why invest more money in facilitating the accumulation of worthless degrees?
 
darkgen said:
May is on LBC now, taking calls from the proletariat.
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Two NHS workers and a Police Officer being the first callers moaning about their pay, a bit predictable. What would be the chances of getting someone on who's pension has done well on the surging stock market? None, as that doesn't fit the narrative that Brexit Britain is a bit ****
 
danielanthony said:
Two NHS workers and a Police Officer being the first callers moaning about their pay, a bit predictable. What would be the chances of getting someone on who's pension has done well on the surging stock market? None, as that doesn't fit the narrative that Brexit Britain is a bit ****
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I think you'll find the public service workers have been moaning about their pay for the entire time the Tories have been in government, it's got nothing to do with Brexit.

It's funny, there's a real disconnect in the public conscious, they **** Labour for "spending money we don't have on public services" and the **** the Tories for "not spending money we have on our public services"

Public service workers have had the **** end of the stick for the last 10 years (and I say that as a private worker who has had no issues with the last decade), I think they have the right to moan about their pay to conditions ratio
 
danielanthony said:
Two NHS workers and a Police Officer being the first callers moaning about their pay, a bit predictable. What would be the chances of getting someone on who's pension has done well on the surging stock market? None, as that doesn't fit the narrative that Brexit Britain is a bit ****
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Don't you think they have a a right to be a bit upset? These are the people who could save your life, unless you go private and have a private security firm patrolling your gated community, and yet the government treats them with total contempt.
 
Freakbro said:
I think you'll find the public service workers have been moaning about their pay for the entire time the Tories have been in government, it's got nothing to do with Brexit.

It's funny, there's a real disconnect in the public conscious, they **** Labour for "spending money we don't have on public services" and the **** the Tories for "not spending money we have on our public services"

Public service workers have had the **** end of the stick for the last 10 years (and I say that as a private worker who has had no issues with the last decade), I think they have the right to moan about their pay to conditions ratio
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So you're really saying the UK is a bitchy nation? :)
 
V F said:
So you're really saying the UK is a bitchy nation? :)
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I think we have become a very self centered, entitled nation, which instead of looking at what we have....which compared to the rest of the world is pretty much everything, we focus on what we think we don't have, and God forbid anyone else who tries to achieve it or woe betide anyone who gets something I don't
 
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