teen dies after drinking caffeine too quickly (Mountain Dew, McDonalds latte and an energy drink)

[Malevolence]

I been drinking 6 to 8 cans of redbull each day plus about 6 cans of coke cola for about 6 years now....

But I only weight around 80kgs

 

[norm]

Why's there such bravado surrounding drinking energy drinks and consuming caffeine?

No one cares if you drank 10 cans of red bull and lived.

It's like in the minds of people bragging about this they think they're on par with some rock and roll star who's smoking crack and snorting coke, just as stupid, but it's at least legitimately deviant/risky behaviour.

 

[D.P.]

I take caffeine pills before a race or an extra hard workout, normally 300-350mg 30 minutes before. In a race I'll take another 50mg with a gel pack 5nin before start. In a marathon another 25-50mg every 45 minutes, plus the 150mg in sports drinks over the next 2-3 hours.

For reference 300mg is a good strong coffee. Drinking 2 coffee over 2 hours is not a health risk

 

[Tefal]

Why's there such bravado surrounding drinking energy drinks and consuming caffeine?

No one cares if you drank 10 cans of red bull and lived.

It's like in the minds of people bragging about this they think they're on par with some rock and roll star who's smoking crack and snorting coke, just as stupid, but it's at least legitimately deviant/risky behaviour.

no idea personally i like sugar free versions like the monster white can.

tastes like nice lemonade, zero/1 calorie and has the caffeine kick if i need to stay awake.

 

[Tefal]

I take caffeine pills before a race or an extra hard workout, normally 300-350mg 30 minutes before. In a race I'll take another 50mg with a gel pack 5nin before start. In a marathon another 25-50mg every 45 minutes, plus the 150mg in sports drinks over the next 2-3 hours.

For reference 300mg is a good strong coffee. Drinking 2 coffee over 2 hours is not a health risk

*cough* doping*cough*

 

[D.P.]

well yes a heart arrhythmia is a pretty bad reaction

your claim that caffeine has no effect on you is a bit dubious - it likely does but you don't notice it... yes some people so consume huge amounts daily, it probably doesn't do them any good - they're probably at greater risk of heart rhythm issues like atrial fibrillation later in life which can lead to things like heart failure, stroke etc..

sure some people will avoid major long term issues just as there is always someone who can make some anecdote about their Grandad living to 95 despite being a life long smoker etc..

just because lots of people indulge in something doesn't mean the long term health implications aren't there or that some of these risky (but yes rare) events aren't worth knowing about - frankly no one *needs* to gulp down so much energy drink in such a short space of time and so people being aware of the risks and being a bit more sensible with these things is a good thing

Coffee drinkers have a higher life expectancy, lower risks of heart disease, cancer and stroke.

The risks have to be put in perspective. More people die in the US falling out of bed than from terrorists but you do t see health scares about beds being raised off the floor leading to deaths.

 

[Tefal]

Coffee drinkers have a higher life expectancy, lower risks of heart disease, cancer and stroke.

correlation = causation, is the point of the day here.

coffee drinkers will generally be western/developed society hence higher life expectancy,

care to back up your claim caffeine improves life expectancy?

The risks have to be put in perspective. More people die in the US falling out of bed than from terrorists but you do t see health scares about beds being raised off the floor leading to deaths.

2001 proves this to be 100% untrue

 

[D.P.]

*cough* doping*cough*

What, large brewed coffee from Starbucks is 330-375mg caffeine.
https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine

Pretty normal for an office worker to have a morning brew and then another couple of hours later.


For races and workouts it's just more convenient in pill form and I prefer liquids to have controlled electrolytes and be isotonic with plenty of maltodextrin.

 

[Tefal]

What, large brewed coffee from Starbucks is 330-375mg caffeine.
https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine

Pretty normal for an office worker to have a morning brew and then another couple of hours later.


For races and workouts it's just more convenient in pill form and I prefer liquids to have controlled electrolytes and be isotonic with plenty of maltodextrin.

was a joke...

did i really need to emphasis that with more than the double cough?

 

[D.P.]

correlation = causation, is the point of the day here.

coffee drinkers will generally be western/developed society hence higher life expectancy,

care to back up your claim caffeine improves life expectancy?




2001 proves this to be 100% untrue

The studies account for social economic factors and include similar populations of people from the same geographic regions, education, income etc.

Of course the studies are largely correlations but as is everything in regards to health. There are known physiological.explanatio s such that caffeine is know to increase fat metabolism and helps mediate insulin hypersensitivity, . That can help control weight, body fat and reduce risks of diabetes.

 

[Tefal]

The studies account for social economic factors and include similar populations of people from the same geographic regions, education, income etc.

source

 

[Mark A]

Caffeine warning signs
You may want to cut back on caffeine if you experience side effects such as:

• Headache
• Insomnia
• Nervousness
• Irritability
• Restlessness
• Stomach upset
• Fast heartbeat
• Muscle tremors

I have all these lul. I don't think I over do it though. I have about 5-6 cups of coffee a day, one of which is a proper brewed coffee in the morning and the rest are instant.

 

[D.P.]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3922918/

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...h-study-links-daily-coffee-habit-to-longevity

http://www.coffeeandhealth.org/2012/05/coffee-positively-associated-with-life-expectancy/


http://www.health.harvard.edu/stayi...ate-coffee-drinking-associated-with-longevity



Plus there is mountains of research testing animals, yeast, house flies etc with caffeine and finding increased life expectancy, and lots of plausible physiological explanations and evidence.

 

[Tefal]

so none if you actually read those dp instead of just googleing "caffeine longevity"

Edit: also omg how brilliant are those sites, like info wars for food

coffee and health strikes me as particularly impartial i must say.

although the 216 word count one is thoroughly convincing i must say kudos there.

shame half the words are could, might and may...

and the sentence

"But the study doesn't prove that coffee was responsible for the lower risk of early death"

is kinda awkward....

 

[VincentHanna]

I don't drink coffee or energy drinks. Only caffeine I get is 1x can of coke zero a day at work.

I think a lot of people are caffeine dependant.

 

[MooMoo444]

I think a lot of people are caffeine dependant.

Yeah, like those people who have a coke every day

 

[VincentHanna]

32mg in a can of coke zero.

That's almost half the amount of 1x cup of tea (which I also don't drink)

 

[Craterloads]

For reference 300mg is a good strong coffee. Drinking 2 coffee over 2 hours is not a health risk

Is this accurate or am I misunderstanding somewhere as when I look online it says a cappuccino / espresso shot has around 80mg of caffeine in it and on the same page on a different site uses similar figures to as you stated. 80mg to 300mg is a massive difference.

I tend to have a cappuccino in the morning and sometimes another in the evening but not more than that usually.

 

[dowie]

Coffee drinkers have a higher life expectancy, lower risks of heart disease, cancer and stroke.

likewise people who drink wine in moderation have lower risk of heart disease

though the point here is little to do with drinking caffeine in moderation

 

[D.P.]

Is this accurate or am I misunderstanding somewhere as when I look online it says a cappuccino / espresso shot has around 80mg of caffeine in it and on the same page on a different site uses similar figures to as you stated. 80mg to 300mg is a massive difference.

I tend to have a cappuccino in the morning and sometimes another in the evening but not more than that usually.

An Espresso shot is about 8-mg, but typically people never drink a single espresso. I have an espresso machine and have never used the single-shot head once, always the double head.

Furthermore,, espresso actually is surprisingly low in extracted caffeine. Due to the production method with hot liquid passing through under pressure, many of the more volatile aromatics and simpler compounds related to taste pass through but caffeine is less soluble so much of it remains in the grinds still. Brewed coffee on the hand is emerged in boiling water for longer which extracts far more caffeine.

A large dark-roast brewed coffee can eaisly exceed 400mg caffeine. Its all pretty variable, which is another reason that I use Caffeine pills before a race because I can have an exact quantity that I know works for me. I take caffeine because it is a legal stimulant that is proven to increase aerobic performance strength and endurance