Astronomers may have found Aliens

G-MAN2004 said:
Have you watched Contact? The religious nuts would go crazy. It'd be an absolute disaster.

Edit: Oh ffs, this thread is well old :p
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I've always been kind of fascinated by what happens if we do find evidence of other civilisations out there - would we properly prepare ourselves as best we can incase they aren't friendly? or will people bury their heads in the sand until its too late if they do prove unfriendly (assuming there is any potential for actual interaction).
 
Rroff said:
I've always been kind of fascinated by what happens if we do find evidence of other civilisations out there - would we properly prepare ourselves as best we can incase they aren't friendly? or will people bury their heads in the sand until its too late if they do prove unfriendly (assuming there is any potential for actual interaction).
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I wouldn't worry, any civilisation advanced enough to have mastered FTL travel will likely be able to destroy the planet from orbit. We won't even know they're here either most likely.
 
MissChief said:
I wouldn't worry, any civilisation advanced enough to have mastered FTL travel will likely be able to destroy the planet from orbit. We won't even know they're here either most likely.
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Not a given - they might have never actually faced anyone in battle before and be considerably under-prepared for the realities of war even with a technical edge or any of many other potential scenarios.
 
Would the government actually tell us if they had found something which proved life exists somewhere else in the universe? I don't think so.
 
In any case, the protocol should be rather easy to implement, first signs of life - cut off the contact immediately and silence whoever knows. Then take the issue up with the UNSC, before releasing a public statement that we aren't alone and we don't know their intentions, thus are preparing for the worst and not making contact until we are.

Easy enough, will be ruined by some idiot who thinks they must be good or some ****.

Not releasing a public statement will just end up being leaked anyway, so just telling the truth is much better in reality, a high and mighty attitude would lead to complacency... so the sooner that the general populace realises they are but dust in comparison to the universe, the better.
 
Any leak could be denied as a hoax. They wouldn't reveal anything and I wouldn't be surprised if we'd already found something that is secret.
 
Clov!s said:
Would the government actually tell us if they had found something which proved life exists somewhere else in the universe? I don't think so.
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Depends how it is discovered - there are a lot of people scouring the skies and a lot of the raw observational data is propagated for distributed analysis, etc. so it would be hard to keep it a secret if it was there in the raw data or obvious to anyone who has a half decent telescope, etc. setup.
 
Rroff said:
Not a given - they might have never actually faced anyone in battle before and be considerably under-prepared for the realities of war even with a technical edge or any of many other potential scenarios.
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If Movies have taught me anything some trigger happy Air Force or US Army colonel will immediately recommend to the president a pre-emptive strike as they're clearly here to destroy us.
 
Dr Steven Greer has just put out a good documentary called Unacknowledged.

He was the guy tasked by the CIA and former President to try and find out why information on the topic was not accessible to them.

Some good interviews with retired military and air force personnel and analysts discussing technology being kept from the public to avoid cleaner \ free energy discussions.
 
Maybe the laws of the universe just don't allow objects to travel faster than light or tunnels to be created and an object to survive through them.

If this is the case then you can say goodbye to any kind of communication with other intelligent races.

Knowing the vastness of space I really think this is the case. I've no doubt there are other civilisations but it just seems inconceivable to make any sort of contact.
 
sityeuropa said:
or tunnels to be created and an object to survive through them
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IIRC the science is actually looking feasible with breakthroughs in the last ~3 years - just the practical side and energy requirements are um astronomical.

If certain quantum inequalities conjectured by Ford and Roman hold,[19] the energy requirements for some warp drives may be unfeasibly large as well as negative. For example, the energy equivalent of −1064 kg might be required[20] to transport a small spaceship across the Milky Way—an amount orders of magnitude greater than the estimated mass of the observable universe. Counterarguments to these apparent problems have also been offered.[1]
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They actually refined it down to potentially being feasible with the mass-energy of something around the size of Jupiter more recently and for the proposed tiny probe idea of the size of a microchip actually got it down to around the size of a truck - but obviously this is all highly theoretical at the moment.
 
Yeah you can guarantee any race able to traverse those distances would be able to obliterate or planet. Hell, we could obliterate our planet now
 
MissChief said:
I wouldn't worry, any civilisation advanced enough to have mastered FTL travel will likely be able to destroy the planet from orbit. We won't even know they're here either most likely.
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Destroying a planet, or at least the advanced life on it, is easy. Just throw big rocks at it.

As for aliens, well, they'll have to be introduced to the Good News. Teach them about our Master-Overlord of the Universe and accept him in their heart, or whatever they use to pump fluid around their body.
 
Why do we think the governments will want us to not know?
I personally think it would help join our people together. We are all very similar after all and knowing there are other intelligent life forms out there will help us realise that, hopefully. It will eventually be known anyway as scientists of other countries learn of it. It's bound to be leaked

Funny how the thread talks about how advanced aliens might be but the question of "friendly or unfriendly" appears. Maybe advanced civilisations are already well beyond that question knowing only friendliness, potentially after huge wars on their own planets in the past have made them realise that - who knows.Having said that, all planets have limited resources so maybe that would be a big issue.
We're not advanced at all I many ways. Our race is destructive and selfish and we have not self-corrected those flaws yet. THis is proven by Trump for example becoming president with one of his aims "America first". Same situation for Brexit too, caring for ourselves and not the people of the EU as a whole. We don't necessarily learn from failures of the past either. All those people who died in previous wars yet we find no peace with each other.
All of the things we have today are all based on the resources we have on this planet. Creating worm holes etc, are such things really even possible? We'll never know that's for sure and it's all theory until proven. We have to think anything is possible but there are surely limits.
I reckon there's life out there but most likely it's largely encapsulated with the distances required to reach other planets with life just too large to overcome with the resources and time available. It probably happens, but many planets and species dying first before being able to reach out.
 
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Why would an alien civilisation go to all the trouble of encasing a star when they could just create Fusion which is the power of a sun.
 
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