OC Help / New Cooler/Case?

doyll said:
"Up to 56dB" is the true and accurate truth .. it is exactly what the Anandtech data shows for the CLCs they tested with stock fans running at full speed.

Sure, we can use bottom fan to help get cool air to GPU, but we can also optimize case airflow so an air cooler on CPU receives cool air. I build lots of air cooled systems with airflow into CPU and GPU being 2-5c above room ambient when system is under full load. Many stock builds with be supplying air warmer than that to the GPU.
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My issue with up to 56db is that it isn't relevant to this example, because the Arctic Liquid Freezer isn't nearly that loud.

The reason I think this cooler would be a good choice is because it isn't much more expensive than high end air coolers, it performs better and is barely noisier, while preventing the GPU heat from increasing CPU temps. The goal here is to lower CPU temps for overclocking.

Here is a review that compares the acoustics of it against the NH-D15, it comes in 0.8db louder at load: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/03/09/arctic_cooling_liquid_freezer_240_aio_cpu_cooler_review/3

I would the advantages of increased performance, having spare fans to use an extra exhausts and other benefits like better RAM compatibility, outweigh the cost increase and the negligible noise increase (which the OP said wasn't as important as performance). Air coolers do have the advantage of basically lasting forever, but I wouldn't say they are the best option for this situation.
 
Frank Jeagar said:
My issue with up to 56db is that it isn't relevant to this example, because the Arctic Liquid Freezer isn't nearly that loud.

The reason I think this cooler would be a good choice is because it isn't much more expensive than high end air coolers, it performs better and is barely noisier, while preventing the GPU heat from increasing CPU temps. The goal here is to lower CPU temps for overclocking.

Here is a review that compares the acoustics of it against the NH-D15, it comes in 0.8db louder at load: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/03/09/arctic_cooling_liquid_freezer_240_aio_cpu_cooler_review/3

I would the advantages of increased performance, having spare fans to use an extra exhausts and other benefits like better RAM compatibility, outweigh the cost increase and the negligible noise increase (which the OP said wasn't as important as performance). Air coolers do have the advantage of basically lasting forever, but I wouldn't say they are the best option for this situation.
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well that was an interesting read, for a slow monday morning in the office haha! :) yeah its on order and should be turning up today, so I'll get it all hooked up and report back the differences lads thank you for all of your help though its much appreciated from both of you! next job after sorting my temps is stepping my toes into OC'ing for the first time ever lmao!
 
9dal39 said:
well that was an interesting read, for a slow monday morning in the office haha! :) yeah its on order and should be turning up today, so I'll get it all hooked up and report back the differences lads thank you for all of your help though its much appreciated from both of you! next job after sorting my temps is stepping my toes into OC'ing for the first time ever lmao!
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Ahaha, glad to have helped, let us know how it goes!
 
Frank Jeagar said:
I know right, I kind of want one just because...
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Hey Frank just looked in the deals for this week.. both those cases made an appearance
£137.99 Enthoo Luxe Glass Midi- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phan...ower-case-gun-metal-ca-066-pt.html#free_items
£84.95 Inwin 303 Midi - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/in-win-303-midi-tower-case-black-ca-073-iw.html#comments

think either of those are worth changing from the h440 for? I just seen their prices and thought it was a good price drop on the in win and the enthoo to be fair ha
 
P.s. my coolers arrived today so going to get it fitted tonight, still can't decide whether putting it at the front and moving that other fan to the exhaust like we said is the better idea or just putting the rad at the top of the case hah think I might just try the first I decided on then if its still not helping to much relocate it to the top! :)

would anyone recommend a better temp monitoring software than speedfan?
 
9dal39 said:
Hey Frank just looked in the deals for this week.. both those cases made an appearance
£137.99 Enthoo Luxe Glass Midi- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phan...ower-case-gun-metal-ca-066-pt.html#free_items
£84.95 Inwin 303 Midi - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/in-win-303-midi-tower-case-black-ca-073-iw.html#comments

think either of those are worth changing from the h440 for? I just seen their prices and thought it was a good price drop on the in win and the enthoo to be fair ha
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From what I've heard of the Inwin 303 the airflow is pretty bad, so maybe in this case give it a miss :p

The Luxe is a nice case if you don't mind the size. Plenty of cooling performance and options for expansion. Not sure it would improve performance, but if that is all that mattered we'd all have £40 cases haha
 
9dal39 said:
P.s. my coolers arrived today so going to get it fitted tonight, still can't decide whether putting it at the front and moving that other fan to the exhaust like we said is the better idea or just putting the rad at the top of the case hah think I might just try the first I decided on then if its still not helping to much relocate it to the top! :)

would anyone recommend a better temp monitoring software than speedfan?
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See how it goes, make sure your GPU temps don't go up. I mostly use MSI Afterburner for monitoring now, but HW Monitor is good.
 
yeah true! I do like the tempered glass look but with it sitting away in the cupboard atm im not fussed, ill monitor GPU temps for an hour, let them get back down after load, then do the change and monitor again see if anything changes :)
 
Hey guys.. long time no speak ha, so I was happy with what my CPU temps are now down to with the arctic it does well to say the least! but now after monitoring my GFX card is still hitting 70-75 under load, its the g1 gaming gigabyte 980ti, I've seen those NG980 corsair adapters for them, where you can basically get it to accept an AIO, would this be a worthwhile option? can they even attach to the G1 gamings? as I think those temps are a little high, I mean my fan curves holding it at those temps but I could always whack it up to 100% a lot earlier heat wise but that'll make it quite loud ha.

also set up the fans how we talked about previously frank, just need to know how what kind of curve I should be setting on them in speedfan for when things start to heat up as I think my settings may be slightly high to be fair.
 
Awesome to hear the cooler is working for your CPU at least! Do you know what the GPU temps were before the CPU cooler change?

70-75 sounds okay for that model, I just had a look at some reviews and they have it running at 70 in their tests. It won't throttle at that temperature, so unless it is noisy watercooling it wouldn't provide you with any benefit. I know for certain the NZXT g10 adapter will work with it though if you do go for it.

I have my fans on really sharp curves. So I'd probably set mine to run really slow (about 30%) until the temps get to around 50-60 and then I'd have the fans start to speed up to the max level I am comfortable with. Do some tests to see how loud the fans are at different speeds to see what is comfortable for you though.
 
Frank Jeagar said:
Awesome to hear the cooler is working for your CPU at least! Do you know what the GPU temps were before the CPU cooler change?

70-75 sounds okay for that model, I just had a look at some reviews and they have it running at 70 in their tests. It won't throttle at that temperature, so unless it is noisy watercooling it wouldn't provide you with any benefit. I know for certain the NZXT g10 adapter will work with it though if you do go for it.

I have my fans on really sharp curves. So I'd probably set mine to run really slow (about 30%) until the temps get to around 50-60 and then I'd have the fans start to speed up to the max level I am comfortable with. Do some tests to see how loud the fans are at different speeds to see what is comfortable for you though.
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Oh they're loud frank! it sounds like my pc's operating heathrows runway when they ramp up ha I have aggressive curves set and if 70s alright then thats cool was around the same when my CPU was in really so no change to the GFX, although ive set speedfan curves for all the fans now with the front mounted rad and bottom in take fan and back 2 exhaust and it seems to be levelling itself out now, CPU sits at around 45-55 under load, and obv gfx ranges between 60-75 so not too bad I guess what temp would throttling occur?
 
9dal39 said:
Oh they're loud frank! it sounds like my pc's operating heathrows runway when they ramp up ha I have aggressive curves set and if 70s alright then thats cool was around the same when my CPU was in really so no change to the GFX, although ive set speedfan curves for all the fans now with the front mounted rad and bottom in take fan and back 2 exhaust and it seems to be levelling itself out now, CPU sits at around 45-55 under load, and obv gfx ranges between 60-75 so not too bad I guess what temp would throttling occur?
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Oh lord! I didn't realise that Gigabyte card was that loud :eek:

You could always watercool, it would definitely help and you could mount the radiator at the front bottom intake or rear exhaust. The throttle temp for the 980 Ti is 84 I believe, so your performance isn't at risk until it gets to that point.

You could also look at a custom air cooler like the Arctic Accelero Xtreme, they go for about £45-50 I think. But with the backplate they take up like 4 slots ahaha.
 
9dal39 said:
Oh they're loud frank! it sounds like my pc's operating heathrows runway when they ramp up ha I have aggressive curves set and if 70s alright then thats cool was around the same when my CPU was in really so no change to the GFX, although ive set speedfan curves for all the fans now with the front mounted rad and bottom in take fan and back 2 exhaust and it seems to be levelling itself out now, CPU sits at around 45-55 under load, and obv gfx ranges between 60-75 so not too bad I guess what temp would throttling occur?
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Yeah, I don't believe Hard|OCP data showing it same noise level as D15. All other review sits show D15 (NF-A15 1500rpm fans) as one of the quietest coolers out. I would be surprised if it was only 5dB louder.

But I have to ask what temperature the air going into your coolers is. You stated in an earlier post:
9dal39 said:
yeah true! I do like the tempered glass look but with it im sitting away in the cupboard atm not fussed, ill monitor GPU temps for an hour, let them get back down after load, then do the change and monitor again see if anything changes :)
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If you do not have at least as much cool air flowing into the cabinet (with heated air moving out of cabinet though other vents) as your CPU and GPU coolers' fans are moving through their coolers your coolers are re-using their own heated exhaust air! Every time they increase fan speed / airflow they only use more and hotter air and create more heated air .. this may be the cause of you loud noises. ;) This is not just true of the cabinet airflow, but also your case airflow.
 
yeah GPU cooler for the noise man, and ahh its not really in the cupboard anymore the vent holes at the back of the cupboard are dragging the air out and the front door is always left open when im gaming really, when im not pushing the GPU it sits around 25-30 same as the cpu ha, its when it ramps that it kicks up a fuss.
 
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