So.... Just in case the batty old loon actually goes and does it, what's the best VPN to get ?
Emigrating.
Theresa may calls for tighter internet regulations after London attack
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I was 2400bps(A) I didn't see you on the internets back then
(B) No intelligent person would advocate this:
Theresa doesn't need to tighten Internet regulations. She just needs to watch a bit more television!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-appeared-channel-4-jihadi-documentary-tried/
I don't want to start throwing around blame but it's hard to see this as the security services not dropping the ball on this one IMO
Is there any indication that less encryption and/or more surveillance of internet traffic/comms would have prevented this attack. Clearly these people were already known to the security agencies?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-appeared-channel-4-jihadi-documentary-tried/
I don't want to start throwing around blame but it's hard to see this as the security services not dropping the ball on this one IMO
Is there any indication that less encryption and/or more surveillance of internet traffic/comms would have prevented this attack. Clearly these people were already known to the security agencies?
So.... Just in case the batty old loon actually goes and does it, what's the best VPN to get ?
Likely make VPNs illegal. ISPs told to ban anyone who is connecting to a VPN without pre-arranged authorisation.
So.... Just in case the batty old loon actually goes and does it, what's the best VPN to get ?
NordVPN is cheap and seems to work well enough. Hello from Panama and (at this moment) Manchester! ipleak and doileak both show no leaks and nothing noteworthy. Just an ordinary customer in Manchester. Which I'm not.
I don't care if the police or any of the alphabet agencies monitor my internet use if they have any reasonable degree of suspicion and a bona fide court order or even with a lesser (but still significant) degree of oversight. I do mind when everyone's internet use is monitored without due cause, without meaningful oversight and used to build profile data that will become available to anyone dodgy who pays for it after the inevitable leaks and hacks, while the security services drown in a sea of irrelevant data that obscures the targetted surveillance that's useful for security purposes.
I've seen 300/300 or 1200/75 (you got a choice). With a VT100 terminal and amber text on a black background. You didn't get a choice about that unless you bought a new monitor with the only other option - green text on a black background. I think my first home access was 2400. I remember upgrading to 9600, but I don't remember what from.
My fear is that if it ever happens, there will be no end to what is deemed "harmful". Terrorist/bomb making websites sure, I don't have an issue with those being black listed but where will it end? Cannabis research, porn sites, labour speeches?
Soon enough we could be another North Korea with only the voice of our glorious old crone to guide us.
Before you know it you will have a knock at the door for googling vegan activism.
Soon enough we could be another North Korea with only the voice of our glorious old crone to guide us.
Before you know it you will have a knock at the door for googling vegan activism.
End? Thats just the beginning
. The aim is to make China envious.Another vote for Nord. Fastest one I've used.
Absolutely - we've seen time and time again that stuff like that will get leaked, the power of having access does corrupt, etc.
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My fear is that if it ever happens, there will be no end to what is deemed "harmful". Terrorist/bomb making websites sure, I don't have an issue with those being black listed but where will it end? Cannabis research, porn sites, labour speeches?
Soon enough we could be another North Korea with only the voice of our glorious old crone to guide us.
Before you know it you will have a knock at the door for googling vegan activism.
Exactly. The worry is that its a back door to start doing whatever they damn well please. It always starts small then will gradually get worse and laws very rarely get reversed so once its in...its in.
I do find it amusing in the london bridge thread we have people calling for internment camps, mass arrests, deportations, punishing families etc then this thread we have people saying heavier monitoring of the internet (where most attackers seem to be radicalised) is just too far!
This is a hard situation now. I'm not sure I want to vote for May any more.
But Putting Labour in charge means Diana Abbot as home secretary, which has disaster written all over it. Do people really want her in charge of the security services? :/
But Putting Labour in charge means Diana Abbot as home secretary, which has disaster written all over it. Do people really want her in charge of the security services? :/
Abbot is a bit of a Berk... sort of hard to endorse any of them right now, I sort of felt the same as you in some respects,
Until it came to light, that one of the bombers from Saturday night, was already known to Mi5 and the police and only last year, had even been on the television in a documentary about terrorism waving an ISIS flag around, AND he'd been reported to authorities by a third party for trying to radicalise children, all of this under Theresa May's watch....... which I think takes some beating as far as incompetence goes!
Is the current capability to deploy malware to targets telephones and capture the data before encryption being intentionally underplayed by authorities, to give targets a false sense of security ? (Enigma'ish)
By using PGP (or the like) encryption yourself, and assuring that the sending/receiving devices are isolated you can adopt secure strategies, but are the targets that aware.
This article Their monitoring included the successful decoding of PGP encryption software used by Shilling and Defraine and others on their multiple BlackBerry phones.
misleadingly suggested decoding PGP keys which is not computationally feasible, but rather they probbaly deployed malware.
Equally providing backdoors on the encryption has long time been common place in France for telecom companies (we were given encryption keys blessed by authorities)
which I believe was under the eprivacy laws, so there is a president which press does not seem to acknowledge
see
https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/24/e...e-as-france-and-germany-call-for-decrypt-law/
https://techcrunch.com/2016/04/12/europe-consulting-on-new-telecoms-data-privacy-and-cookie-rules/
By using PGP (or the like) encryption yourself, and assuring that the sending/receiving devices are isolated you can adopt secure strategies, but are the targets that aware.
This article Their monitoring included the successful decoding of PGP encryption software used by Shilling and Defraine and others on their multiple BlackBerry phones.
misleadingly suggested decoding PGP keys which is not computationally feasible, but rather they probbaly deployed malware.
Equally providing backdoors on the encryption has long time been common place in France for telecom companies (we were given encryption keys blessed by authorities)
which I believe was under the eprivacy laws, so there is a president which press does not seem to acknowledge
see
https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/24/e...e-as-france-and-germany-call-for-decrypt-law/
https://techcrunch.com/2016/04/12/europe-consulting-on-new-telecoms-data-privacy-and-cookie-rules/
Yes, but Corbyn's government is even less likely to take action on these things. His SJW disciples don't like it :/
Internment/deportation/etc only affects some people, internet restrictions affect everybody..
Having said that, There is a part of me that doesn't mind the internet radicalising people, Anybody who has the potential to be radicalised is already half way there and I want to know who they are. once they are radicalised we can identify them and take action. (Intern/Deport/etc.)
If I am hunting for wasps nests in the shrubbery, I dont just wait for them to come out and sting me, I will poke the hedge until I find them...
Because throwing people in internment camps or mass arrests don't directly affect them. Breaking the internet does. People want the authorities to crack-down and do things as long as they have no effect on their own lives.